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Old 01-06-2012, 03:24 AM
sugarkang sugarkang is offline
 
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Default Re: Matt Yglesias: Creating Jobs by Cutting Wages

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Originally Posted by badhatharry View Post
You've constructed this paragraph in an odd way. First you point to liberals and then you point to conservatives. Why not just say all people?
I think I tried that last year and then that conversation got thrown in the dungeon. I'm always ready to fail in a different way.

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But then you say this and apparently you seem to surmise that liberals have more of a predilection for...what?
Now that sentence should have been worded better. I should have said that liberal and conservative differences with regard to moral sensibilities show similar patterns in all societies around the world according to the data.

The reason I brought up Haidt in conjunction with the issue of pathological altruism is that liberals care much more about fairness. We know this, right? Who's more likely to say, "Hey, life isn't fair. Suck it up"? And because the liberals on this board share similar moral sensibilities, they may not readily perceive the differences in someone expressing altruism vis-a-vis pathological altruism.

It also leads them to say nonsensical things like:

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Conclusion: do evil for better results?

Go figure.
I think anyone who isn't so caught up with personal resentment knows that I wasn't saying that.

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And are you also saying that liberals aren't as self aware or just less moral or what?
I don't think evaluating morality should be in terms of less or more. That's my opinion, of course. But imagine a person that had all the 5 factors amped up super high. Not only would it be ridiculous, but these factors involve implicit tradeoffs. Liberals have slightly more of two and way less of the other three.

I think there are times when liberals are needed and there are times when conservatives are needed. If people were overly deferential to authority, colonists wouldn't have had the Revolutionary War; MLK wouldn't have practiced civil disobedience. But if the country is suffering from entropy and malaise, as I believe it is, then conservatives are needed to whip the fat bastards into shape.
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