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Old 03-12-2009, 03:41 PM
atropos atropos is offline
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Default Re: That Dangerous Secret Ballot


This story on Hoffa at teamster.org may interest you: http://www.teamster.org/content/hoff...ee-free-choice

“This business about the Employee Free Choice Act taking away the secret ballot is nonsense spread by front groups for corporate fat cats who don’t want to give up their $16,000 wastebaskets,” Hoffa said.

“Since when is the secret ballot a basic tenet of democracy?” Hoffa said. “Town meetings in New England are as democratic as they come, and they don’t use the secret ballot. Elections in the Soviet Union were by secret ballot, but those weren’t democratic.”
It seems to me that secret ballots allow people to vote their conscience and are intrinsic to democracy. Necessary but not sufficient.

This seems like another situation where something else is going on besides the issue that's actually being discussed. I'm not sure I know anyone that would argue in good faith that secret ballots aren't a basic tenet of democracy...

It seems to me that there must be *some* way to prevent management from interfering in the elections that also allows people to vote their conscience. Whatever that system is - that's what we should be going for, rather than claiming that secret ballots didn't bring democracy to Soviet Russia so clearly they aren't useful.
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