Re: Newtmentum! (David Weigel & Chris Moody)
You're so fond of pointing out "philosophical reasons" as if having reasons for a belief makes it less harmful. I pointed out the harm a belief causes and you say there is reason for it. I hate to break it to you but the LDS church also had reasons for its racism. I guess that nullifies your complaint about it, because once there is a reason we no longer have to look at the consequences of that belief.
The point of the last post which you seem to have missed is that not allowing someone to be a full member of a church is on a whole different moral level than the harms I point I out. Are you actually denying that?
I'm not sure why you're equating all gay people with what Dan Savage does. Should I equate all Catholics with the priests that molested children? I don't think Catholics should be allowed children based on this either. Lots of straight married couples have sex with other people. Should straight people be denied marriage? What you're saying isn't thought out at all on these points. You are generalizing whether a whole group of people should be denied a fundamental right based on what a single person from that group does.
Lastly, stop bringing up God changing his mind because Catholics have the Pope. When the Pope makes some change all Catholics go along with it as if God changed his mind as well, so this isn't some point of contrast but rather a great comparison point for the absurdity of Catholic beliefs as well.