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Old 12-07-2011, 09:46 PM
hilbert90 hilbert90 is offline
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Default Re: Newtmentum! (David Weigel & Chris Moody)

You keep saying, "But that isn't Mormon crazy." I just need to point out how disturbing this is. Your example was that they at some point in the past didn't accept black people as full members. What real harm was that doing? Sure that's not a good thing, but here is an analogy. Take someone from Soviet Russia and ask them whether the ideas of Stalin or Ghandi are crazier. Because you are an insider the outsider's (Ghandi) beliefs will look crazier. How crazy a belief looks to you has no bearing on how harmful those beliefs are in reality.

But what in the world? Every belief I listed in that last post causes very real harm to people. Yet due to your insider position you are defending those beliefs as less crazy than a belief that didn't really cause harm.

Telling people not to use condoms causes the spread of STI's. That is a harmful side effect of that belief. Gay marriage is a no brainer. Those are real, loving families that get badly hurt by this policy. The Catholic church would rather send a child into the system and possibly not ever be adopted than allow a loving gay couple to adopt him/her. Stem cell research is the most promising medical research for curing many horrible diseases and obsessing over a couple cells severely limits this research.

You want to talk about crazy or gullible? It's how brainwashed you have to be to call beliefs that cause serious harm in the world as less crazy than a belief that certain people can't join your religion.
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