Originally Posted by sapeye
I guess we count differently. I hope that Obamacare will be the first step toward a healthcare system that will actually work to both cover everyone and bring down costs, but it won't do either as it stands. Obama didn't even bring single payer to the table. But no need to rehash any of that. I think we agree on the facts, we just assess things differently.
Pretty much. I don't think that putting an obvious non-starter like single payer on the table would have had a positive effect on the ultimate outcome, but the answer to that question is so hard to assess that I doubt we'll ever know for sure, or even have any real evidence to bring to bear. This is definitely agree to disagree territory.