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Old 07-06-2009, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

Ann, your haircut is so cute!!!

I'm sorry this post doesn't have anything substantive to say, other than to note that I really like Michelle Goldberg. But it's just that I almost have a physical urge to note a flattering haircut when I see it.

Again, sorry.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

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I don't think Althouse thinks those who don't support Palin are abnormal. I think she's trying to defend Palin's assertion of the other America's values (the other being what is not Goldberg's America). Althouse went out of her way to describe Palin's message as positive and not resentful (Goldberg's word and perception). Goldberg, I think, is projecting how she views frontier and rural America on to how Palin views urban, liberal America. Both sides do to this to one another actually. Nobody likes getting projected on I guess.
Abnormal may not be the best choice of words, but Ann does imply that Michelle and others that share her opinion are not part of the group of "ordinary Americans" that Palin appeals to. "Out of the ordinary" may be more accurate. To the different America's metaphor, Ann makes no indication she means only a segment of America except to indicate the "ordinary" one.

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Palin's basic national political message has been, imo: America isn't only urban and liberal, but rural and conservative too. She, and a lot of other conservatives today, are not much different from the populism of William Jennings Bryan. The same political tension between rural and urban America continues to this day. Sarah Palin is simply on the rural, populist side.
I don't disagree with Ann's larger point that there are some people that Palin strikes a chord with and I agree with your assertion that this is a sort of "rural populism". I just resent the divisive language that claims a monopoly on Americanism. I don't think that is projection.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:03 PM
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Default Underestimating Palin

By not mentioning what 'higher purpose' she is seeking, Palin is being smart. She knew it would rush many liberal bloggers into a feeding frenzy which can only make her look more sympathetic to her base (and possibly, even beyond her base). So the score at half time is Liberal Bloggers 0 - Sarah Palin 1.

Obama's populist rhetoric got more traction among the moderates and independents than Palin's because (a) Obama was running against Bush during an economic downturn; (b) McCain's campaign made some spectacular miscalculations and (c) Obama used more 'inclusive' and upbeat rhetoric (at least when he was not talking behind closed doors to the liberal faithfuls). But, after some uploading of information into Palin's brain as Ann suggests, even if Palin does not change her tone, her 'outsider' credentials may become more appealing to the voters if Obama's economic and foreign policy proposals do not result in significant improvements by 2012.

Liberal bloggers should not let their inbred chatter blind them to the fact that "Obama '12" could be the "Bush '08" and "Palin '12" could be the "Obama '08". She may lack analytical skills but she is smart enough to know which emotional buttons to push and many voters won't remember how much she once reminded them of Bush...

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Old 07-06-2009, 06:20 PM
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Your right conservatives name call. The difference is that we don't elect the name callers U.S. Senate (see Al Franken)
Erm, Sen. Inhofe (R-OK) just called fellow Sen. Franken a clown.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Michelle Goldberg "I went to Wasilla "

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Nice little slip of the tongue.
So Michelle was one of the Democratic muckrakers/opposition researchers sent to Alaska to dig up dirt on Sarah Palin.
But now we are to believe she is giving an unbiased opinion on Palin.
Here I was thinking that only 'liberals' indulged in wild conspiracy theories... ;-)
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:42 PM
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By not mentioning what 'higher purpose' she is seeking, Palin is being smart. She knew it would rush many liberal bloggers into a feeding frenzy which can only make her look more sympathetic to her base (and possibly, even beyond her base). So the score at half time is Liberal Bloggers 0 - Sarah Palin 1.
I fail to see this. First, her remaining fans are at this point going to be her loyal fans no matter what. Rallying them, even if your claim about sympathy is true, doesn't buy her anything.

Second, some of her fans that weren't completely gaga have had the bloom go off the rose, fast. No more starbursts for Lowry, for example. Rove called it "risky strategy." Krauthammer called it "the most unexpected and, I would say, erratic political announcement since John McCain declared in the middle of September he was going to suspend his campaign ..." Mark Steyn called the move a "disaster." Ace of Spades (CPAC Blogger of the Year in 2007) said, "And that is that. It's over. You can't resign from a governorship and then run for higher office." Hot Air's Allahpundit agrees with this. Hot Air's Ed Morrissey says, "She has destroyed her own credibiity in a single day." Jim Geraghty quotes MSNBC's David Shuster, of all people, just to agree with this: "... her national political career is done." And so on.

Oh, and Bill Kristol applauded it, and you know what that means: kiss of death.

At this point, in other words, the only people who are going to have any sympathy for Palin's latest stunt are people who would defend her if she rolled on the floor and started speaking in tongues. People who dislike her only have another reason to laugh. And anyone still on the fence is likely to see this as flaky, and quitting when the going got tough. To the extent that she has any national political future left, almost no one outside of her cult thinks she has a chance until 2016 or beyond.

Now, could some of those quoted above recover from their shock and get back to spinning things in a good way? Maybe. Especially if the current crop of GOP candidates doesn't improve. But the "score at half time" is not "Liberal Bloggers 0 - Sarah Palin 1," unless you think at the end of the first quarter it was 0-10.

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... "Obama '12" could be the "Bush '08" and "Palin '12" could be the "Obama '08".
Wanna bet on that?
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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Abnormal may not be the best choice of words, but Ann does imply that Michelle and others that share her opinion are not part of the group of "ordinary Americans" that Palin appeals to. "Out of the ordinary" may be more accurate. To the different America's metaphor, Ann makes no indication she means only a segment of America except to indicate the "ordinary" one.
She may have conveyed that, but I think she meant to describe the America that's not Goldberg's America.



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I don't disagree with Ann's larger point that there are some people that Palin strikes a chord with and I agree with your assertion that this is a sort of "rural populism". I just resent the divisive language that claims a monopoly on Americanism. I don't think that is projection.
I don't think Althouse or Sarah Palin use divisive language though. There are rural populists or conservatives that do and some may support Palin, but Palin's rhetoric doesn't veer into the negative from what I've heard.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:56 PM
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Default A BHTV Challenge

How about a DV with Ann Althouse on one side and Sarah Palin on the other so we can see if Ann, in 60 minutes, can induce the ex-Governor to make one single coherent statement that doesn't sound embarrassingly moronic.

Seriously - trying to defend Palin takes the concept of "jumping the shark" to uncharted territory.
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Old 07-06-2009, 06:56 PM
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I don't think Althouse or Sarah Palin use divisive language though.
Doesn't the fact that most liberals find both of these women highly offensive and obnoxious mean anything to you, as far as "divisive" goes?

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There are rural populists or conservatives that do and some may support Palin, but Palin's rhetoric doesn't veer into the negative from what I've heard.
All that stuff on the campaign trail about "Obama palling around with terrorists" and "real Americans" doesn't strike you as negative?
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Underestimating Palin

bjkeefe: Great response - I admire your patience. I started to reply to this comment but wound up just shaking my head in disbelief and giving up.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

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My goodness, how an obviously intelligent person can actually believe what she is saying in that discussion hurts my brain to contemplate.
"Are you the brain specialist? My brain hurts!" I just had to slip a little Monty Python in there.

As for the diavlog, it also makes the blood boil. The constant interruptions throughout betray the fact that that woman on the right was not even listening to Mrs Goldberg. Also, it seems that dittohead indoctrination will make even a seemingly intelligent person perform some outlandish mental gymnastics along with selective amnesia.

And so, Obama's campaign speeches were divisive, while the whole "Obama pals around with terrorists" was okey dokey, and so were the crowd chants of "Kill Obama" at Palin rallies last year. Might as well also smile benevolently at Limbaugh's little ditty "Barack the magic negro".

To my utter disbelief, the hits just kept on coming:
1) William Kristol's endorsement of Palin as a positive thing. Because, you know, Kristol is an intellectual titan and quite the neocon prophet.
2) Republicans directing gratuitous and vicious comments at Chelsea Clinton was all, you know, good clean fun, while making jokes about unwed teenage mothers who flip-flop their opinions on national television, arrested meth addicts, etc, is just plain gauche.
3) Speaking of the devil, the best defense against Sanford hypocrisy is yet another swipe at whatever Bill Clinton did ten years ago, and the fact that Sanford was among the ones loudly condemning the President back then should only make him cuddlier and more trustworthy today, I guess.
4) Of course, it's de rigueur to reference and/or quote Oxycontin Boy, often.
5) Finally, Palin's speech was eloquent and canny? Holy cow, I was almost expecting that woman to defend torture, Dick Cheney and Bush's response to Katrina somewhere along the way.

To paraphrase Jeff Gannon or James Guckert or whatever his name was, why try to work with conservatives on these diavlogs, seeing how disconnected they are from reality?
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:10 PM
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I don't know much about Twitter so this could be totally wrong but I googled twitter palin and twitter arnold and it would seem that at the moment 65,000 people are following Arnold and 41 people are following Palin.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:19 PM
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I don't know much about Twitter so this could be totally wrong but I googled twitter palin and twitter arnold and it would seem that at the moment 65,000 people are following Arnold and 41 people are following Palin.
Heh. You must have come across one of the fake Palin Twitter accouts. Her actual account shows a touch under 75,000 followers at the moment.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:21 PM
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bjkeefe: Great response - I admire your patience. I started to reply to this comment but wound up just shaking my head in disbelief and giving up.
Thanks.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:31 PM
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Default Edroso Wraps Up Wingnuttia After They've Had a Weekend to Digest

"She Scoots to Conquer: Rightbloggers Celebrate Sarah Palin's Latest Masterstroke" is now available.

And if you missed it, Roy's Friday post, "Palin to Resign Governorship of Alaska, Expected to Focus on Complaining," is worth reading as an appetizer.

An interesting point from today's post, which contradicts another howler that Ann let loose, which I forgot about earlier:

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You could hardly ask for better evidence that Palin plans to build her movement on resentment and victim status, and rightbloggers went into raptures over it.
Bonus: the post includes coverage of the True Believers bickering with the "Vichy Republicans" who had earlier dared to comment negatively on Palin's Big Quit.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

I wonder if Ann doesn't think much of the state of South Carolina. Could not imagine the same argument (who cares if he disappears for a couple days?) being applied to, say, California or New York.

For instance.
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Old 07-06-2009, 07:43 PM
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Doesn't the fact that most liberals find both of these women highly offensive and obnoxious mean anything to you, as far as "divisive" goes?
Not really. They just disagree with you and you can't handle it.


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All that stuff on the campaign trail about "Obama palling around with terrorists" and "real Americans" doesn't strike you as negative?
Obama hung out with Ayers and she's proud of where she's from. She doesn't hate you guys like you hate her.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:00 PM
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Palin clearly states conservative principles..hmmm...this is thin ground here. I know what Ann is after, but I disagree. I seem to remember Sarah Palin getting caught just as often in her own words as soaring to rhetorical heights stating any principles. Again, there's just not enough depth there, IMO. Nor width.

If information can be uploaded into her; if she can bone up on things, that she can speak back to people. If she could get up to speed, she could be great - Ann says.

I would add -- if she understands it.

All of that is useless unless she understands what is being drilled into her.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:07 PM
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....Ann Althouse's attempted debunking of all of MG's points against Sarah Palin was too much to believe. My goodness, how an obviously intelligent person can actually believe what she is saying in that discussion hurts my brain to contemplate.
I'm not sure how much of what Ann defends reflects what she actually believes. Many times she's just looking for some weakness in the other person's (whomever she is interacting with) argument or just finding the other side of the coin. It seems to me she is doing what lawyers are supposed to be good at doing. She's good at it even if we disagree with her arguments.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:12 PM
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Not really. They just disagree with you and you can't handle it.
However much you want to portray your girlfriends as saints and put all of the blame on liberals' shortcomings, it does not at all change the fact that Palin and Althouse are divisive, by definition.

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Obama hung out with Ayers and she's proud of where she's from. She doesn't hate you guys like you hate her.
This is just pure idiocy. Anyone who isn't a wingnut knows Obama did not "hang out" with Ayers, and certainly had nothing to do with him forty years ago. And excuse me, but being proud of where you come from doesn't change the reality that calling everyone else who doesn't not-real Americans is negative speech.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:15 PM
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I fail to see this. First, her remaining fans are at this point going to be her loyal fans no matter what. Rallying them, even if your claim about sympathy is true, doesn't buy her anything...

Second, some of her fans that weren't completely gaga have had the bloom go off the rose, fast...
What I was trying to say is, quitting the governorship is indeed a risky and possibly stupid thing to do but I'd prefer the liberal bloggers to dwell on that rather than the unsubstantiated rumors so that they would not give Palin an opportunity to play victim (and motivate her base even more).

I don't want to bet on a Palin victory in '12. I am not even sure if she would run. I was only providing scenarios based on a lot of ifs...
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:31 PM
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Depends on your definition of hung out. They know each other and Obama used Ayers and his home to further his political career. No they aren't buddies and Obama is a much, much better human being than Ayers, but they spent some time together and one can call that hanging out.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:34 PM
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Default Hating Palin

I am also not a fan of people saying that they hate Palin. Good bloggers should articulate why they dislike Palin and let the readers come to their own conclusions.

The same thing is true for taking pot shots (though Palin is such an easy target)...
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:36 PM
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I was looking at the following v followers number based on an assumption on my part that following = active and followers = anyone that ever looked. In any case, Arnold's followers number is over half a million.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:40 PM
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You will also notice that the quote was in the context of his time as a comedian by job description that does make him a clown does it not.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:49 PM
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I was looking at the following v followers number based on an assumption on my part that following = active and followers = anyone that ever looked. In any case, Arnold's followers number is over half a million.
Okay.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:51 PM
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The same thing is true for taking pot shots (though Palin is such an easy target)...
Fox News's Liz Trotta agrees with you (video).
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:54 PM
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Default Earth to Althouse on Chelsea Clinton

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

-- Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
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Old 07-06-2009, 08:59 PM
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From the Village voice entry I enjoyed this line about why liberals hate palin ( because she didn't abort her down syndrome child, yeah that makes sense )
"...And they hate Sarah Palin because deep down, they hate themselves for being who they are."

Well I don't know about you but enjoy spitting on people who take care of mentally challenged. I find a deep abiding need in my liberal psyche to berate, harass, physically and verbal abuse anybody who helps or aids the retarded.

Thanks for letting me get this off my chest.

Oh and for fun this was where the spitting thing came from:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...06/2617502.htm

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Old 07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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Default Analyzing why timba HATES Ann Althouse

To me, the most amazing thing about Blogging Heads is that I winding up liking all these arch conservatives - from Pinkerton to Goldbert to Kagan to Kaus to Conn ... almost all of them are funny, intelligent, human and even make a lot of sense in this setting. I viscerally despised Jonah Goldberg until I saw him on BHTV. Now, although I still disagree with him on many subjects, I always listen to and enjoy his diavlogs.

So why is Ann Althouse like fingernails on the chalkboard?
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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Depends on your definition of hung out. They know each other and Obama used Ayers and his home to further his political career. No they aren't buddies and Obama is a much, much better human being than Ayers, but they spent some time together and one can call that hanging out.
Obama and Ayers's connection was a couple of meet-and-greets/fundraisers and some overlapping time served on the board of a non-profit organization. "Hanging out" to me means being friends, spending time together for other than professional reasons.

In any case, as far as I've ever heard, by the time Obama was active in politics, Ayers was an established -- even Establishment -- citizen, a university professor and a player in the political scene, with a clean record going back decades. I never saw what the big deal was about the two of them spending time together for whatever reason.

This is the sort of thing that were it Sarah Palin, you'd be freaking out about "unfair attacks" and "guilt by association" and "witch hunts" and all manner of hysteria.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:05 PM
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Oh and for fun this was where the spitting thing came from:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...06/2617502.htm
Careful. The word from on high on this site is that religion is a force for good.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:05 PM
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Default Michelle Goldberg - A waste of Time

No reason to listen to Goldberg when you can get the standard Liberal talking points from CBS/NBC/ABC/NPR/NY TIMES/WaPo and 100 other Liberal blogs who parrot the same party line.

Nice try Althouse - but even you couldn't make her interesting.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:15 PM
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No reason to listen to Goldberg when you can get the standard Liberal talking points from CBS/NBC/ABC/NPR/NY TIMES/WaPo and 100 other Liberal blogs who parrot the same party line.

Nice try Althouse - but even you couldn't make her interesting.
Disagree. I find that she often has a lot different to say from liberal talking points. One area in particular where she stands out: her views on conservative Christians. She strikes me as having a deeper understanding and more sympathy than do most liberals.

Speaking also as a liberal, I categorically reject the WaPo as liberal. It is an organ devoted to the Establishment. Its opinion pages are filled with a combination of neocons and people who think bipartisanship is the only option, no matter how much the Democrats have to yield to the far right. They just fired one of their best people and only actual liberals, Dan Froomkin.

NPR I think often tends to be best described as Nice Polite Republicans. I can't bear listening to their newscasts anymore, although they do have a few good reporters.

No comment on the network TV stations. They're so vapid I find them unwatchable.

The NYT is fairly liberal on the opinion pages, although they do maintain an affirmative action program for conservative columnists. Most of their political news coverage, it seems to me, suffers from a fetish for balance if anything. It probably could be called "liberal" if you are of the view that Fox News's slogan isn't Orwellian.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

I usually find conservative talking heads to be cynical debaters but I like Ann Althouse and also Matt Lewis. Two nice exceptions to the rule.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:20 PM
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There is no shame in having a strong visceral reaction against Sarah Palin.
Correct; and lost in all this is the fact that it is Palin , not her liberal detractors, who has expressed the most hateful and intolerant sentiments. Her whole image is based on sneering contempt for millions and millions of her fellow Americans. To dabble in second grade logic for a second: she started it.

There is also no shame in having a strong visercal reaction to Michelle Goldberg: I think it's what we know as love.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: Michelle Goldberg - A waste of Time

I thought she was more interesting in this dv than I've seen her in the past. You have to accept that the vast majority of people who can even be bothered to comment on these political stories tend to have some skin in the game.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Special Sex and Palin Edition (Michelle Goldberg & Ann Althouse)

I don't think Althouse is all that conservative. I think she just knows who butters her bread.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:23 PM
pampl pampl is offline
 
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Default Re: Analyzing why timba HATES Ann Althouse

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To me, the most amazing thing about Blogging Heads is that I winding up liking all these arch conservatives - from Pinkerton to Goldbert to Kagan to Kaus to Conn ... almost all of them are funny, intelligent, human and even make a lot of sense in this setting. I viscerally despised Jonah Goldberg until I saw him on BHTV. Now, although I still disagree with him on many subjects, I always listen to and enjoy his diavlogs.

So why is Ann Althouse like fingernails on the chalkboard?
Yeah, I'm basically in the same boat as you. I think it's because actual conservatives really believe what they say and so have thoughtful justifications that can hold up under scrutiny. Althouse just seems to say whatever she thinks hasn't been said yet, no matter if it's justified or even coherent.
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Old 07-06-2009, 09:26 PM
thouartgob thouartgob is offline
 
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Default Re: Edroso Wraps Up Wingnuttia After They've Had a Weekend to Digest

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Careful. The word from on high on this site is that religion is a force for good.
I heard that it wasn't a force for non-good or at the very least/very most, neutral :-)

Oh by the way the saucers didn't land on the 5th ( X-Day ) and so now that Mcnamara died and the contents of Who's Who is continuing to dwindle at almost 1 Who per day, what design is now being revealed by events ?? Is Carrot-Top safe ?
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