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Old 11-23-2011, 11:48 PM
sugarkang sugarkang is offline
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Default Re: Values Destroyed: The Fringe Edition

Originally Posted by Parallax View Post
Do you think anything fundamental has changed since 2006 in the way the system works? I think nothing has changed. So what has actually happened? The problem is that most of OWS people thought themselves to be part of 1% and now they have realized that they are not. How many of the OWS crowd are men with no college degrees? After all men with no college degree are by far the biggest losers of the past 5 years. You see OWS crowd had no problem with 1% place and its influence they are upset that the bouncer did not let them in the club. In the words of Tyler Durden:

OWS is a lot of privileged White kids dealing with their narcissistic injury.
I largely agree. Let me just add that this disaster was fueled by Democratic price fixing, by which I mean easy access to college loans which drove up education costs and drove down the value of a degree. It's like the California Gold Rush where everyone looking for gold ends up with nothing and the only one who gets rich is the guy selling blue jeans.

But the people will continue to point the finger at politicians or the opposing political party when it's their own unrealistic expectations to blame. I'm definitely planning an exit strategy.
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:13 AM
AemJeff AemJeff is offline
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Default Re: Values Added: Occupy, Inc. (David Roberts & Julian Sanchez)

Originally Posted by Sulla the Dictator View Post
I think that the left's habit of interrupting private citizen meetings is more egregious. Conservative's dealing with staged interruptions, pie's thrown, "street theater". Its very obnoxious, and yes, it is meant to silence them. We are fortunate that the activist left has adopted the effeminacy of the cultural Marxist scheme, or else they would be breaking up opposition gatherings with actual violence like they used to do.
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Old 11-24-2011, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Values Added: Occupy, Inc. (David Roberts & Julian Sanchez)

Originally Posted by AemJeff View Post
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Old 11-24-2011, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: Any bipartisan support to make govt. more opaque to its citizens = bad idea

Originally Posted by Globalcop View Post
I couldn't agree more. I wonder what would happen if I tried to take this video I shot of a road block, years ago, today. Chicagocops.com
I would assume it would be a very short video assuming you could keep the tape/chip. Now at least you could stream it with a cell data connection.
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Old 11-27-2011, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Values Added: Occupy, Inc. (David Roberts & Julian Sanchez)

Originally Posted by Simon Willard View Post
I don't have enough information to say the spray was appropriate to the situation. But it is possible. At some point the rights of many people are trampled by the occupation of a few.
Since this discussion took place last week, I am wondering if this film was available at that time. The protestors were clearly and dispassionately informed of their fate if they didn't break up the protest.

I guess some people think the police don't have a right to break up a protest under any circumstances. I suppose that's where the debate lies but it looks like the policies that led to the pepper spray incident were in place and this was not some crazy reaction.
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