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Old 06-04-2010, 05:58 PM
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:31 PM
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Obama [paraphrasing]: "I have the goods, Obamacare will cut costs, save money and you'll be able to keep your doctor".

I agree with Bill, when someone says this and it's all a sham, the next (or the 20th or the 100th) time, you'll tend to doubt, or at least view the claim as suspect.

As for using a hoax to make a point about someone else's credibility, look at Scher himself and his Mickey Kaus goat theory, you just end up with egg on your face looking very childish.

I'm sure Bill will be happy to welcome Erickson into the 'Grain Of Salt' web ring.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:16 PM
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...look at Scher himself and his Mickey Kaus goat theory...
What are you talking about?
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Old 06-05-2010, 09:03 AM
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What are you talking about?
My bad Bill, a thousand 'I beg your pardon's.

I had you confused with another far leftie (sometimes parroted by the BHTV clique echo-chamber)

My correction took a few minutes, once I read your response.

I think Mickey is still waiting for an apology from the John Edwards defense squad.

As to Erickson's strange departure from reality and how it compares to Obama's blatant lies in his propaganda push to pass Obamacare, it's still funny to see the outrage over a single instance of lie from a right conservative blogger compared to the hijacking of a nation's health care and health insurance industry based on lie after lie after lie after lie (you get the picture).

Even the New York Times is beginning to admit the obvious.
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:14 AM
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As for using a hoax to make a point about someone else's credibility, look at Scher himself and his Mickey Kaus goat theory ...
As we have observed before ...

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Leaving aside whether Bill said this or not, I hope you are not serious. I most sincerely hope that you have just hurled this accusation because you're hoping to score a cheap point, and hoping that people won't remember exactly what you're talking about. (We also note, as an aside, that as with just about all of your assertions, there is of course no link to back up what you're saying.)

The reason I hope this is that despite my occasional snickering about wingnuts, their lack of a sense of humor, and their tendency to be perpetually on the prowl for excuses to feel aggrieved, it actually does pain me that certain of their ilk; i.e., you, seem unable to detect even the slightest bit of context or subtext. Hyperbole, irony, sarcasm, parody, whatever; it is apparently all lost on you. I must say that this is categorically subhuman.

Ah, well. Poe's Law, I guess. But naming the problem does little to alleviate the concern I have about the bottom quarter of our country.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:43 AM
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The reason I hope this is that despite my occasional snickering about wingnuts, their lack of a sense of humor, and their tendency to be perpetually on the prowl for excuses to feel aggrieved, it actually does pain me that certain of their ilk; i.e., you, seem unable to detect even the slightest bit of context or subtext. Hyperbole, irony, sarcasm, parody, whatever; it is apparently all lost on you. I must say that this is categorically subhuman.

Ah, well. Poe's Law, I guess. But naming the problem does little to alleviate the concern I have about the bottom quarter of our country.
"there is no form of irony in the world that won't be taken seriously. I once wrote a piece of which I was at the time very proud (I maybe shouldn't go back and read it again), arguing somewhat ironically that socialism in the United States was the result of organized sports. It takes people at a vulnerable age and makes teamwork, more than individual work, the thing. It subjects people to the authority of the team captain or the coach, and as I say, this is at an age where people are vulnerable. And therefore, team sports are the breeding grounds for socialism and must be watched very carefully. And I had an organization in the piece -- this ran in Harper's -- called "the CIA": the Congress for Individualist Athletics. It was written under a pseudonym because I was then an ambassador, I couldn't write under my own name. One day the postman struggled into my room at Harvard with a pile of letters this thick that had been sent on from Harper's from people who, well, they fell into three classes:

* people who wanted to know whether it was real or not;
* people who wanted to join; and
* people who demanded that I exclude baseball from the list because baseball is not, as they said, a "socialist" sport: when you're up at bat, you're on your own.

Well, it's an example of the dangers of using irony. Under the best of circumstances, many people are going to take it seriously. But in any case, that's a rather long answer to a short question."

J.K. Galbraith, 1986.

And you meant, "e.g.".
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Old 06-06-2010, 05:15 PM
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"there is no form of irony in the world that won't be taken seriously. [...] ... Harper's ..."

J.K. Galbraith, 1986.
Fair enough. I'm not going to say there's no such thing as a humorless lefty. But please, lately? The two sides are not anywhere near close in this problem.

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And you meant, "e.g.".
I can see how "for example" would work there, but no, I really did mean "that is."
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Old 06-06-2010, 12:36 PM
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2)We also note, as an aside, that as with just about all of your assertions, there is of course no link to back up what you're saying.)
3)We can only hope you'll inhale it.
There's a certain magisterial tone which has crept into Brendan's commentary of late. Perhaps he went to visit the queen on his vacation.

But his wonderful sense of humor hasn't changed a bit....

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Old 06-06-2010, 12:58 PM
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There's a certain magisterial tone which has crept into Brendan's commentary of late. Perhaps he went to visit the queen on his vacation.

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Maybe you are alot closer than you surmise.
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:00 PM
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I guess it depends who we is.

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You can often use we, as if to bring out the good aspects of your relation. It gives a nice feeling to your partners. It feels as if you are friends from a long time. In many conversations with strangers you can use we, just to give a nice and warm feeling.

The word we nourish your relations and help you to make them even better. It gives the feeling of togetherness and allows the listener to be connected.

Create the sensation of intimacy with everyone, even if you have met him or her for the first time. Try using we, us, and our in your conversation. It really affects the hearts of millions.
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:09 PM
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Thus, the "maybe".
By all definitions...you are good.
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Old 06-06-2010, 02:32 PM
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Thus, the "maybe".
By all definitions...you are good.
Not so good really. I only just now got the 'queen' joke.
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Old 06-06-2010, 05:19 PM
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Thanks for reading.

In that example, though, I did not use the editorial (magisterial) we, as I do elsewhere, for fun. In that post, I used we because there, I was representing a view held by others besides just me.

I am quite sure this would apply in some of the other places I have used we on this site, as well. For example, odds are badhat went 3-for-3, above.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:00 PM
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Thanks for reading.

In that example, though, I did not use the editorial (magisterial) we, as I do elsewhere, for fun. In that post, I used we because there, I was representing a view held by others besides just me.

I am quite sure this would apply in some of the other places I have used we on this site, as well. For example, odds are badhat went 3-for-3, above.
No need to...
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:51 PM
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Because you won't listen? Or because you're admitting you're incapable of comprehending? Or too insecure to acknowledge a point well made, if it is made by someone who often makes you feel foolish?
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:20 PM
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Because you won't listen? Or because you're admitting you're incapable of comprehending? Or too insecure to acknowledge a point well made, if it is made by someone who often makes you feel foolish?

Is this some sort of odd attempt at deflection? Just let it go.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:28 PM
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[...]
Thanks for letting me know I got to you.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:31 PM
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Thanks for letting me know I got to you.

Your welcome.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:36 PM
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It would seem to be your welcome, since you were the one who offered it.

Perhaps you meant you're welcome?

Contractions are hard, aren't they? Maybe if you spent a little less time wanking to the Disney channel, and a little more time reading and proofreading, you wouldn't keep looking like such a semi-literate.

And now, I can see that you're getting yourself all worked up, so I think I'll go back to ignoring you for a while. Have fun!
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:09 PM
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It would seem to be your welcome, since you were the one who offered it.

Perhaps you meant you're welcome?

Contractions are hard, aren't they? Maybe if you spent a little less time wanking to the Disney channel, and a little more time reading and proofreading, you wouldn't keep looking like such a semi-literate.

And now, I can see that you're getting yourself all worked up, so I think I'll go back to ignoring you for a while. Have fun!
Actually, if you go to the link you might comprehend that it really is Your welcome. But yeah ignoring me would be a far smarter move than your choices so far.
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Old 06-06-2010, 10:26 PM
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Actually, if you go to the link you might comprehend that it really is Your welcome. But yeah ignoring me would be a far smarter move than your choices so far.
Thanks for doubling down on the stupid.

Noted for the record.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:45 PM
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Thanks for doubling down on the stupid.
No. Stupid is the person who does not know when to shut up. I am actually having quite a bit of fun with this so like you said elsewhere "keep it coming".

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Noted for the record.
Might that be one of his records?
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:22 AM
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[...] Stupid is ...
Admitting it is the first step, they say. Congratulations, assuming so.

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Might that be one of his records?
I see you are still so locked into your trailer park mentality, not to mention your unresolved daddy-issues, that you persist in using "gay" as an insult.

Pretty funny -- or sad, actually -- that you no longer have the guts to say so out loud, though.
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:03 AM
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I see you are still so locked into your trailer park mentality, not to mention your unresolved daddy-issues, that you persist in using "gay" as an insult.

Pretty funny -- or sad, actually -- that you no longer have the guts to say so out loud, though.
"Gay" as an insult? Where?

OMG OH'Queef, projection par exsalonce. This thread would have stopped with Billi Holiday if it was up to me. Unfortunately, you were not bright enough to let that happen. Just because you tried to sweeten things up around here with the OH'Queef SLAFBIN Diplomacy Tour the last few days because you thought the brass from Balloon Spit might be sticking their head in the door, doesn't mean that the 15,000 other posts where you played the asshole were going to dissappear physically or in the minds of those who have watched it play out. (How'd that work out for you BTW?)

The insult here was to point out your weak denial (aka backpedal) from your post on your own blog. Who "no longer has the guts"? and "daddy-issues"? Can I use your "weak sauce" here? Fine Brendan, if you are not ready to step out of the closet thats fine with me and was the reason for Billi, but do know that if you are...well...we're here for you and look forward to complimenting you on all the marvelous shoes and the scrumptous stack of perfectly-folded, pastel sweaters you keep in there. Pbbbbt.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:11 PM
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"Gay" as an insult? Where?
Oh ...

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OMG OH'Queef ... OH'Queef ... Fine Brendan, if you are not ready to step out of the closet ... well...we're here for you and look forward to complimenting you on all the marvelous shoes and the scrumptous stack of perfectly-folded, pastel sweaters you keep in there. ...
... I dunno.

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About as well as I expected. Thanks for asking. Probably a little better than that, actually -- I got more positive feedback than I would have expected for posting a response to a month-old post. And in any case, I had fun writing it.

I do have to wonder why you're so bent on trying to find a way to make an insult out of this, though. Oh, wait. Is it that none of the Juicers spoke about how wonderful your "contributions" to this site ("your blog") are? Or is this just more of the usual The sad old 'fur has got nothing, so he'll just impotently flap around, trying to be nasty about something nonsensical?)

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The insult here was to point out your weak denial (aka backpedal) from your post on your own blog.
Usually I can follow the twisty paths that pass for what wingnuts call their logic, but I gotta say, you've got me stumped here. I fail to see how I "backpedaled" at all, and you certainly haven't shown it. Despite what your heroes on hate radio would have you believe, merely repeating an empty assertion, no matter how loaded up with Wingnut Power Words it may be, does not show anything. It may work with the feeble-minded (i.e., your cohort) who crave being bellowed at by authoritarians, even if they're being chastised for tracking manure into the house, but not with normal, sane, reasonably intelligent and well-adjusted people.

Perhaps you'll challenge yourself, and likely, entertain the rest of us, by attempting to give a clear explanation of how I "backpedaled." You know, one that isn't riddled with spelling errors, drowning in your perpetual bitterness and metastasizing inferiority complex, or permeated with the angst that eats at you from not meeting up to your father's demands.

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Not sure what that screen shot is supposed to show, but thanks again for reading my blog.

However, I see you're still using Internet Explorer. After all your bragging about your mad computer skillz?

Maybe you should think about your browser choice the next time you get all paranoid and start blaming me for installing viruses on your computer.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:26 PM
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I have already "entertained the rest of us". Thanks for playing along, baby cakes.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:32 PM
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I have already "entertained the rest of us". Thanks for playing along, baby cakes.
I knew you would have nothing to say, but thanks for surrendering out loud, at least, to save me the trouble of posting a link to crickets.wav.

Oh, no, wait. That's your thing.
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:29 PM
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The Erick Erickson affair is getting more attention nationally than it in Georgia.
The locals are used to his antics, and a lot of us don't pay any attention.
I won't get much photo editing done if I have to interrupt that to make comments. There is plenty of product up at the blog already.
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Old 06-05-2010, 03:11 AM
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The Erick Erickson affair is getting more attention nationally than it in Georgia.
The locals are used to his antics, and a lot of us don't pay any attention.
I won't get much photo editing done if I have to interrupt that to make comments. There is plenty of product up at the blog already.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:40 PM
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I remember seeing Roger Stone say that, although there may have been more than one (crazy person) who did.
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:40 PM
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I always look forward to the Matt & Bill Diavlog it makes me hopeful that "we can all get along."

I wish Matt had exposed more of the partisan speech Obama gave. I found it insulting as did most conservatives I know. I never thought Obama was post-partisan just from the 08 camp.alone.

Obama hates conservatives down to his DNA; just look at his behavior towards the conservatives on the Supreme Court during his State of The Union Address. Any President has the right to disagree with the court, but the forum he chose to do so was not Presidential.

What Obama does not seem to be registering is that the American people are ready for a change. More will push the "R" button then the "D" in Nov no matter how much he trashes conservatives.

BTW: If anyone cares -- Rush Limbaugh is getting married for the 4th x on Saturday.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:29 PM
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Matt is HIGHsterical !! Obama makes a speech ( not a full one but I'll round up) that Matt and his com-padres say is using a the oil spill crisis for some sort of political gain yet Bush used 9/11 to invade a sovereign country killing hundreds of thousands people and to subvert the habeas corpus and a few other meaningless amendments to the constitution amongst other things.

As for Obama being post partisan I would say he has been more than considerate, considering that seemingly every other day he is called and enemy to his country by the republicans. Not that he has a choice in being a nice guy about it. One thing that repubs would love to have is a video loop of him being angry against the unprecedented attacks on him.

If Obama did actually respond with any passion commensurate to the offensive BS (nothing ever came close in Clinton's time) I guarantee headlines on fox and other rightwing outlets will contain the following phraseology:

... Obama Hussein released from his CAGE...
... be afraid for your children ...
... obama HUSSIEN ATTACKS AMERICA ... ( mmm that one might have been used already )

mix in these words as well

... evil...hysterical...mau-mau ...filthy half-rican (that one is 4 U Rush) ... rampage ... savage ... african ... unholy ... bloodthirsty etc etc
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Old 06-05-2010, 10:40 PM
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Bush used 9/11 to invade a sovereign country killing hundreds of thousands people and to subvert the habeas corpus and a few other meaningless amendments to the constitution amongst other things.
worst genocides of the 20th century
Saddam Hussein (Iran 1980-1990 and Kurdistan 1987-88) 600,000

There are several separate issues in Iraq body counts:

1. How many enemy combatants have the allies killed? (good, the more the better)
2. How many civilians have the allies killed? (bad, and our moral responsibility)
3. How many allied troops have the enemy killed? (bad, but not our moral responsibility)
4. How many civilians have the enemy killed? (bad, but not our moral responsibility)
5. How many lives have been saved by deposing Saddam? (good)

Iraq body counts often confuse 1,2,3 and 4 all together, and ignore 5.
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:30 PM
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Matt, Erick Erickson has left us with NO further questions. He ADMITTED HIS LIE.

It's very charitable of you to defend Erick. But then again, you have NEVER criticized Erick or RedState......no matter how many his lies. As I've said to you before; YOU DON'T DARE!

As for Riehl's endorsement of New Media's playful experimentation with veracity, he may or may not believe what he wrote.......or he may just be playing with his readers-----New Media-Style.

Both Riehl and Erickson have proven no interest in facts when they've got a spin to sell.
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Old 06-05-2010, 01:17 AM
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Default Offshore Drilling will happen. Just accept it and try to make it safer.

The United States has almost 10% of the world's continental shelf, and petroleum is some rather kick ass stuff that is not going away anytime soon. This resource will be exploited. There is no way around it, offshore drilling will happen. Just accept it and try to find a way to make offshore drilling more safe.

My proposal would be to make a relief will be drilled alongside each production well. Just in case something goes wrong.
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Old 06-06-2010, 11:26 PM
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Matt, I OWE YOU AN APOLOGY. After listening to you more fully, I realize that you did indeed scold Erick Erickson for his BIG LIE.

And you raised a good point. Other than Byron York's criticism, Erick has escaped criticism from his fellow Conservative bloggers.

and The Left doesn't even bother exposing Erick's tactics.....as it seems that the headline of "Redstate LIES" is just old news.
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Old 06-07-2010, 12:42 AM
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and The Left doesn't even bother exposing Erick's tactics.....as it seems that the headline of "Redstate LIES" is just old news.
You're correct in assessing "Erick Erickson lies" as pretty much the canonical example of a dog-bites-man story, but, for the record, his latest lie did not go completely unremarked upon by Teh Left.

For example. For example. For example. For example. For example.

(And yeah, that third link is flamebait for wingnuts with CJDS.)
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"Liar Liarsson" aka Erick Erickson is finally getting the attention he deserves.

Thanks Matt. Though you've quoted him in almost every Week in Blog so far, I hope you'll now use a more credible source for your references.

I know it's tempting to quote only the most rabid and irrational players in New Media........but PLEASE.....give us more Conor Friedersdorf .....and much less Mark Levin and Liar Liarsson.
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Scher: the reason the NYT didn't have to "answer" for the Freakonomics blog is because there was no sin to answer for. I guess you didn't hear the end of the story, but the enviromental scientists (when shown the actual passages of the book) stood by their original remarks. The problem was a dishonest blogger lied to them about the context to get outraged quotations.
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"Liar Liarsson" aka Erick Erickson is finally getting the attention he deserves.

Thanks Matt. Though you've quoted him in almost every Week in Blog so far, I hope you'll now use a more credible source for your references.

I know it's tempting to quote only the most rabid and irrational players in New Media........but PLEASE.....give us more Conor Friedersdorf .....and much less Mark Levin and Liar Liarsson.
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Scher: the reason the NYT didn't have to "answer" for the Freakonomics blog is because there was no sin to answer for. I guess you didn't hear the end of the story, but the enviromental scientists (when shown the actual passages of the book) stood by their original remarks. The problem was a dishonest blogger lied to them about the context to get outraged quotations.
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