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Old 09-23-2010, 10:42 AM
propagandhi propagandhi is offline
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Default Re: Commenter Court: Nonviolent Communication (Robert Wright & Wonderment)

RE: Gandhi. I've always been suspicious of pacifism. I admit I haven't read a book-sized endorsement of pacifism, but it just seems like the simple Philosophy 101 examples show pacifism really to be immoral. Don't know what everyone thinks about Sam Harris as a philosopher (leaving aside the new-atheism talk) but he sums it up pretty well on page 202 of the End of Faith.

"We would do well to reflect on Gandhi's remedy for the Holocaust: he believed that the Jews should have committed mass suicide, because this 'would have aroused the world and the people of Germany to Hitler's violence.'41 We might
wonder what a world full of pacifists would have done once it had grown 'aroused'—commit suicide as well?"

He cites G. Orwell, "Reflections on Gandhi," 1949. - Speaking of Sam Harris, anyone interested/excited to see him answer the "ought from is" distinction in his new book "The Moral Landscape"? Also, two authors with books beginning with "The Moral..." debating at the Center for Inquiry conference on Sat Oct 9th. Ya, I'm talking about Bob and Sam.
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