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![]() When it comes to running-mates, isn't Romney/Perry pretty obvious, a la JFK/LBJ?
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![]() I'm not sure that Mr. Smith understands what those who support the 10th Amendment really think if he believes that it is a contradiction to support using it to limit federal overreach and at the same time to have a constitutional amendment against Gay marriage or abortion. We don't believe that the federal government shouldn't do anything, just that it should only do things that are specifically enumerated.
BTW, I disagree with the policy of either of those amendments, but I wouldn't claim that those who do are hypocrites for supporting them. |
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It's comparable to someone advocating "individual rights", while simultaneously supporting measures to trample on them, like an amendment legalizing slavery - also 'legal'. |
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"By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it." Adam Smith Last edited by badhatharry; 08-15-2011 at 05:07 PM.. |
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![]() We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.
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![]() so you're saying that? or you're saying Perry is saying that?
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![]() But again no one is threatening to secede by saying' who knows what could come of that?' Is that the most emphatic thing he said?
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![]() Why would you even bring it up? Do you think that there is a reasonable explanation for this statement, and the other statements he has made about secession.
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![]() The reasonable explanation is that people are sick of Washington D.C. and all of the talking head, Harvard grads who purport to know what's best for the rest of us. You haven't provided anything else about secession that says he takes this kind of populist rhetoric seriously. After all, he is running for president, presumably of the United States.
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"By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it." Adam Smith Last edited by badhatharry; 08-17-2011 at 12:38 PM.. |
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Of course, the answer is that most Republican primary voters are batshit crazy. |
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![]() OK. you think he's a complete lunatic. I don't. I guess we're going to find out a whole lot more about this guy in next year. And I bet, because he seems to be a pretty savvy politician, he's going to begin to be pretty careful from now on about the ammunition he hands to his opponents.
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![]() No, it isn't hypocritical. The 10th Amendment/States Rights position is that the Constitution reserves some powers to the federal government and everything else to the states. If the Constitution is amended to add a power to the feds, then it is then amoung its enumerated powers.
You and I may disagree that those powers should be added to the federal government (though if you are pro-choice, you don't, you just disagree with the policy outcome), but Gov. Perry's position is internally consistent. |
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Tell me, is someone who believes that states should be abolished as jurisdictions independent from the federal government a supporter of states' rights, if he holds all the other positions of Rick Perry? Does someone who believes that slavery should be legalized again believe in individual rights? |
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I think any amendment banning abortion is pie in the sky for right now. Roe, however, is bad law and should be done away with as soon as possible. Quote:
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![]() So are you arguing that abortion should be back under state control?
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![]() I am pro-choice, but I would give up abortion for everything else that would come from a strong 10th Amendment -- if that were the choice. True federalism would take us back to state experimentation and smaller government which is crucial for new entrepreneurship and innovation going forward. Besides, it wouldn't make abortion illegal in every state -- just some. You gotta make trade-offs in life.
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![]() I am an advocate of liberty, not states' rights. My position is consistent. Rick Perry's is not.
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Moreover, even the "villains" of the narrative have held this position. There was an anti-miscegenation amendment proposed, and of course the infamous Corwin amendment. Everyone knows that the Constitution is the proper pathway for transformative changes in the balance of power. Can you point me to a state's rights advocate who has said the Constitution is not the highest law? Quote:
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![]() Rick Perry never threatened to secede.
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![]() While we're fretting about hypocrisy, let's not ignore the hypocrisy of Evan Smith. He's clearly a partisan leftist who favors raising "revenue" i.e., taxes. Yet he presents his publication a nonpartisan, nonprofit operation. The rather obvious purpose of doing so is to dodge tax liability.
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![]() The 10th amendment acknowledges the primacy of other amendments in the Constitution. To pass an amendment requires a broad national consensus, not a 51% majority. There is no contradiction.
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![]() This is like saying that a constitutional amendment establishing monarchy as the official form of government would not be undemocratic, because it would have to be democratically approved by the states.
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![]() Well that is functionally true. A properly voted on constitutional amendment establishing monarchy as the official form of government wouldn't be undemocratic, by the definition of each term. Indeed, a limited monarchy need not even rid itself of democracy.
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![]() Evan Smith was quite good. How is this possible, he doesn't write for "Reason" or "National Review Online," why was he even on? Since it sounds like the Republican nominee could very well be Perry, let's have more Evan.
I don't know anything about Perry, I don't even know what he looks like, except that I just looked at a picture. Wow, he's good-looking. People never say this, I guess that's not in good taste. Althouse will say it. This guy looks like James Brolin. If he were not governor, he could either be a country music star or play one in the movies. It sounds like people are saying he's a right-wing Bill Clinton, without the quasi-intellectual background.
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lot's of people say this. he's adorable.
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"By pursuing his own interest he frequently promotes that of the society more effectually than when he really intends to promote it." Adam Smith Last edited by badhatharry; 08-15-2011 at 05:05 PM.. |
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![]() It's almost a necessity that a president should have above average looks. The days of having a Grover Cleveland president who was overweight with a triple chin are over.
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![]() Well, and being overweight wasn't necessarily a negative back then. So Cleveland doesn't necessarily prove that unattractiveness used to be okay. For that, one has to go back to Abe Lincoln.
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![]() he looks good in marble.
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