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Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-17-2010, 03:45 AM
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Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

I am not sure I take your point as to this distinction. Coercion is by its nature a threat a threat to make a threat of violence is just a type of threat of violence. Your distinction seems to...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-17-2010, 02:33 AM
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Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

A couple of clarifications...



Here, when I talk about the point of my moral framework, it's somewhat similar to being an agnostic. (To be specific, my usage of the word "agnostic "here means:...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-16-2010, 04:17 AM
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Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

I didn't think that's what I was doing. (Assuming that's what you were implying.)

A logically consistent moral framework does not make anyone do or not do anything. It is just a perspective. It...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-15-2010, 09:05 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

(Assuming by "direct coercion" you mean ""physical coercion"....) From my point of view, direct coercion isn't the only form of coercion that matters. But it is the only form of coercion that is a...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-15-2010, 09:03 PM
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Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

hamandcheese: I'm replying from my own point of view and moral framework. (And not trying to do an overview of all people who self-identify as libertarian.)

Please interpret my replies below as...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-15-2010, 08:34 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

Agreed.



What does Sam mean by "valid"? Morally valid? (If so, that would depend on your moral framework, would it not?)



I'm not the type of libertarian who believe that all the evil...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-15-2010, 08:25 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

CONTINUED FORM THE PREVIOUS POST BECAUSE OF THE 10,000 CHARACTER LIMIT PER POST.

NOTE THAT I ONLY RESPOND TO NOTIONS OF LIBERTARIANISM IN THIS POST. AND REPLY TO THE PARTS ABOUT SAM'S ARGUMENT IN...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-15-2010, 07:38 PM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

Seems there's been a number of people replying since I last took a look.

jimM47: Before replying to you, I will point something out, with the intent to avoid confusion (and to make the...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-08-2010, 11:50 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

My apologies. I just didn't get the impression that you were a libertarian (at 6 minutes into the video).
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-06-2010, 02:51 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

@hamandcheese:

When libertarians are talking about coercion they are talking about physical coercion. I.e., punching someone in the face, or stabbing someone, etc.

They are not talking about a...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 05-06-2010, 02:30 AM
Replies: 56
Views: 20,280
Posted By wreaver
Re: What are the philosophical merits of libertarianism? (jimM47 & hamandcheese)

I just started watching this (and about 6 minutes in), but wouldn't it make the conversation more productive to have at least one libertarian in the debate?

At about 6 minutes in it looks like...
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