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Forum: Diavlog comments 05-21-2010, 07:07 PM
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Posted By Bobby G
Re: The puzzling popularity of Conor

Yeah, I think that if you want to understand how rank-and-file Republicans are thinking, Beck and Limbaugh and Hannity are the go-to guys.

I find cap-and-trade interesting. If memory serves,...
Forum: Diavlog comments 05-20-2010, 11:19 PM
Replies: 71
Views: 13,145
Posted By Bobby G
Re: The puzzling popularity of Conor

Hi Starwatcher,

What about reading more reasonable conservatives, like John Kekes, Robert George, etc.?
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 02-02-2010, 05:01 AM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I will write something in response to what you and PMP said soon; right now I'm swamped with work.
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-31-2010, 08:16 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

First, I will check out Habermas...first I'm reading Mark Kingwell, though, who wrote a book (1994) called A Civil Tongue. It's pretty relevant to all this.

Second, this part here is great stuff:...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-31-2010, 08:10 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Okay, finally, in response to the actual diavlog itself ...

I agree with this, but with the caveat that if you make things too personal you may end up intimidating the person from talking further, or the person may change her idea, not for intellectual...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-31-2010, 08:02 PM
Replies: 283
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Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I thought about Crooked Timber, but it's not as civil as I would like--there are people there who get into pretty white knuckle arguments about Israel, for example.

My main inspirations were...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-31-2010, 07:58 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

There's a lot to talk about in this post, but it's definitely worth considering most of all whether humility equates to civility, or if the relationship between the two is different.

On first...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-30-2010, 02:09 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

For the record, no one told us to limit the diavlog to 30 minutes. I just assumed we had a time limit based on what I thought was an unstated rule. After the diavlog ended, Jeff told me that other...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 06:36 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Obama's talk today with Repubs. on establishing a "tone of civility"

I was just going to link to that! (Not that particular clip, but to the transcript.)
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 04:20 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

Well, I shall. And I'll try to refrain from using occupational jargon in the future.



That's certainly a legitimate view, and one I've thought about: who cares about civility when the stakes...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 04:14 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I've thought of that; and I think that's our rough-and-ready definition of civility. We justify it as necessary to make social interactions possible, and then we can figure out where to take it from...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 04:09 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

And here I was setting you up to say, "It's grammar Nazism, Bobby".
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 03:04 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

Don't worry, I've read a fair bit of him. At the time, though, I didn't read him looking for civility. Same with Pascal and La Rochefoucauld. I figured Rousseau would come in, as I've seen references...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 03:01 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

If you came upon a group of people insulting someone else, would you just dogpile on?
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 02:57 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

Apologies for mischaracterizing you, look.

As for whether being bigoted is intrinsically uncivil, obviously you think it is (otherwise, why the "Yikes"?). However, keep in mind that there are...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 02:55 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

Just when I need some Grammar Nazification, and you don't give it to me?!
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 02:53 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I've never heard "each cat his own rat". I'll have to use it.

Anyway, as to your remark that what is civil depends on which beholder you talk to, as well as the norms she was raised to follow...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 02:16 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I do think this is our own little civility experiment. Obviously, we've had backs-and-forth (back-and-forths? BJ, help a brother out here) before, but it's kind of neat that it's happening in the...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 02:03 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

Hi Franco,

Would you be willing to give me a list of the French classics you have in mind?

Feel free to PM about it.
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 08:00 AM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Unacceptable arguments

I think the points you made in this comment were good ones, and they were ones I considered as well when I was thinking of what constitutes incivility. I think there are three possible candidates:...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 07:44 AM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

That's an interesting point--it's certainly worth thinking about when norms of civility should apply, and to what extent they should apply. There are some contexts in which they have no bearing at...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-29-2010, 07:38 AM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I don't think that can be right, unless by "suppressing free speech" or "regulating speech" you mean something having to do with the government. If you don't mean that--if you mean that merely trying...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-28-2010, 09:30 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Okay, finally, in response to the actual diavlog itself ...

(boldfacing mine)

I agree that some ideas and people are contemptible. Whether they should therefore be treated with contempt is something I'm less sure of. I'm willing provisionally, and perhaps...
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-28-2010, 06:47 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Okay, finally, in response to the actual diavlog itself ...

I haven't read your response yet, but regardless of its content, which I'll discover in a moment, thanks for responding directly to the diavlog.
Forum: Apollo diavlog comments 01-28-2010, 06:14 PM
Replies: 283
Views: 50,908
Posted By Bobby G
Re: Is civility in the blogosphere overrated? (AemJeff & Bobby G)

I'm not going to stop using "objectively", because I disagree with your premise that what is civil is largely or entirely in the eye of the beholder. I also don't think aesthetics is largely or...
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