Originally Posted by operative (Post 193910)

1) "Politics is war" is, and has been for some time, a widely held metaphor in American society.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193917)

First it was "Kos did it too!!!1!" Then it was "there's nothing wrong with it, but Palin didn't have anything to do with anything!!!1!"

Now?



The frantic spinning by the acolytes of St. Sarah and the rest of the right-wing noise machine's purveyors of violent rhetoric would be hilarious, if it were not associated with such a sad situation.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193921)

Back to smearing and misrepresenting me. Grow up, dear child.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193923)

I'll take that particularly feeble response as the most honest acknowledgment of which you're capable that I've got you nailed on this one.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193924)

You're back alleging that I am a fan of Sarah Palin, which is simply not true. You seem incapable of actual engagement and consistently retreat to stereotypes and canned responses. So bugger off till you're able to do something better.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193917)

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The frantic spinning by the acolytes of St. Sarah and the rest of the right-wing noise machine's purveyors of violent rhetoric would be hilarious, if it were not associated with such a sad situation.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193925)

No. Read what I wrote again:



That's plural. That means it refers to more than just you.

And I didn't call you her fan. I called you one of her acolytes (vide, senses 2 and 3). And I extended this relationship to the rest of the right-wing noise machine, on whose behalf you never fail to come waddling in to defend, no matter how much you have to piss on the truth to do it.

[Added] As to your whimpering about "actual engagement," what I said to you last time I bothered to respond to you still stands. You haven't earned back any respect. Someone who operates like you is not anyone to be taken seriously or treated with respect. You made your own bed; now lie in it. Pun intended.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193926)

Pathetic little troll boy. You embarrass both your side and the country.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193924)

You seem incapable of actual engagement and consistently retreat to stereotypes and canned responses. So bugger off till you're able to do something better.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193927)

Did I say spinning furiously? It looks like it's gotten so bad he's contradicting himself in successive posts.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193928)

Sorry but even plenty of lefties (see: Howard Kurtz, Richard Roeper) recognize that people like you are just dishonest creeps.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193929)

Playing the ol' EVENTHELIBERAL card is always pretty comical, but if those clowns are what you think represents "lefties," you're either more desperate than I thought.

Please, keep 'em coming!

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193930)

Your deranged obsessions and vile rhetoric puts you a lot closer to the gunman, actually.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193932)

The unintentional self-referentiality is to die for.

Please, keep 'em coming!

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193930)

Right, they are not sufficiently infected with Bush/Cheney/Palin derangement syndrome. They don't pass the test until they start calling the opposition accessories to murder when a paranoid schizophrenic goes on a killing rampage because he thinks the government is practicing mind-control through grammar.

Originally Posted by graz (Post 193936)

Here's a reasonable left perspective for you. Take a deep breath and consider:

What do we know about assassination as a political tool?

It works. Not always, but enough.

It can be effective even if the assassin is truly a lone gunman, truly crazy, utterly denuded of membership cards or explicit links to more formal political groups.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193934)

Sorry but I'm not the one who goes around calling the opposition accessories to murder.

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193942)

Have I? No. So try to find something better than strawman arguments and guilt by association. Especially since you're whining so hard about guilt by association.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193940)

Conspiracy theory time. Maybe the GOP used grammar to mind control him too!

Originally Posted by graz (Post 193944)

Read and consider. Take responsibility for your enabling. Denial is not in out Country's best interest.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193943)

Just go back to every post that blames conservatives (particularly, but hardly limited to, Sarah Palin) for the shooting. In other words, most of your last 50 or so posts.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193945)

Conspiracy theory time!

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 193946)

Weak. Very weak.

Link and quote. It should be easy, even for you, if I've actually said this so much.

I noticed you have already subtly moved the goalposts, in your usual operative fashion. Can't wait to see how you distort things from here.

Originally Posted by graz (Post 193947)

You have been typing too furiously to have read the link. How can you make a reasoned reply?

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193948)

I'm not wasting my time engaging you when you're in an out-and-out dishonest spin-mode. At least you're still one level ahead of conspiracy theorist graz, who must've forgotten to take his medication.

Originally Posted by operative (Post 193943) Just go back to every post that blames conservatives (particularly, but hardly limited to, Sarah Palin) for the shooting. In other words, most of your last 50 or so posts.