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Bloggingheads 04-22-2011 01:02 PM

The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 

paagle 04-22-2011 01:50 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Bill,

As one who suffers seasonal allergies, I recommend Neti pot followed by salt water gargle to clear out the sinuses and throat (in addition to your drug of choice). You may need to do it every few hours during the worst part of the season, but in my experience the relief is great.

DenvilleSteve 04-22-2011 03:19 PM

Matt does not appreciate that Trump is smart and experienced
 
Matt always seems so far off base. Matt is right that Trump does not have the tempermant or stamina to do door to door campaigning. And maybe loses the first few primaries because of that. But the remaining primaries are all about air time, no?

Like him or not, Trump has a lot of real world experience. He is not intimidated by Karl Rove the way a Pawlenty might be. And I think he is smarter and even a better businessman than his success indicates. His short coming is he is not a team player. He does not have a network of people with standing of their own who work for him or work with him.

Trump is showing republicans how to win, how to beat Obama. Defend the republican base from nasty, unfounded attacks by the establishment. Blame Obama morning, noon and night for the failings of the country. Target China as the non friend of the US it is.

DenvilleSteve 04-22-2011 03:25 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
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Originally Posted by paagle (Post 205279)
Bill,

As one who suffers seasonal allergies, I recommend Neti pot followed by salt water gargle to clear out the sinuses and throat (in addition to your drug of choice). You may need to do it every few hours during the worst part of the season, but in my experience the relief is great.

Wal-Mart, my favorite store, sells a nasal rinse product for a very reasonable price. Problem of course is hard core democrats can't set foot in a Wal-Mart. Maybe he knows a neutral or the republican handyman in his high rise who can go there for him.

harkin 04-22-2011 03:44 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
One of the best cures for allergies is to find local honey and eat a spoonful every morning - it has to be local though so best bet is a nearby farmers market.

I have hives on my farm but am not a honey fan and didn't realize this would combat spring/summer sneezing/breathing trouble till just a few years ago - it works!
__________________________________________________ ____________

Just because Trump would make a far better POTUS than Chairman Zero is no reason to think he is the best that republicans can offer. BO is tripping over his own words and deeds at a daily rate now (how he can promote a commision on anything after the Debt Commission is something for the kool-aid drinkers only) and it isn't too much to ask for the republican party to offer up someone who can not only (the easy part) expose the President's lies, contradictions and hypocrisies but also withstand the treatment he/she will get from an msm completely in Obama's pocket.

Just give us someone who lays it out truthfully and can deliver the message that a United States where a majority of the people take care of themselves is the only sustainable version available; that a country where more people take from the government than create production/wealth/taxes will only end up resembling the much smaller version of the same thing, a housing project where no one cares about taking care of anything because they have no investment in it and tenants that will stand in line all day for substandard services because they have no concept on how to create a superior situation.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 04:03 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
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Originally Posted by DenvilleSteve (Post 205288)
Wal-Mart, my favorite store, sells a nasal rinse product for a very reasonable price. Problem of course is hard core democrats can't set foot in a Wal-Mart. Maybe he knows a neutral or the republican handyman in his high rise who can go there for him.

A picture of Bill Scher's "high rise." OMG NEARLY THREE STORIES.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 04:03 PM

Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Hey, Matt, someone is way ahead of you.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 04:05 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
The rare gem of self-referential truth, hidden among the noise:

Quote:

Originally Posted by harkin (Post 205290)
... for the kool-aid drinkers only ... an msm completely in Obama's pocket.


harkin 04-22-2011 04:16 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
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Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 205295)
The rare gem of self-referential truth, hidden among the noise:

Yeah, the way that the news media is tearing Obama apart for his lies, distortions and hypocrisies is a wonder to behold (his '$50 billion' line on Warren Buffet was esp comical).

Keep drinkin it!

miceelf 04-22-2011 04:44 PM

Re: Matt does not appreciate that Trump is smart and experienced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenvilleSteve (Post 205287)
Matt always seems so far off base. Matt is right that Trump does not have the tempermant or stamina to do door to door campaigning. And maybe loses the first few primaries because of that. But the remaining primaries are all about air time, no?

Well, yes, other than losing the early primaries which are overweighted by everyone including later voters as being important, it's a fine strategy. Just ask President Guiliani.

DenvilleSteve 04-22-2011 05:09 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 205293)
A picture of Bill Scher's "high rise." OMG NEARLY THREE STORIES.

where is the republican handy man?

Ocean 04-22-2011 05:12 PM

Re: Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 205294)

We could have the Presidential and VP candidates right there! What did SP have that MMcC doesn't? It's mostly the other way around. Well, minus the kids, of course. ;)

operative 04-22-2011 05:14 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harkin (Post 205290)
One of the best cures for allergies is to find local honey and eat a spoonful every morning - it has to be local though so best bet is a nearby farmers market.

I have hives on my farm but am not a honey fan and didn't realize this would combat spring/summer sneezing/breathing trouble till just a few years ago - it works!

I used to have fairly bad allergies but they dried up when I diversified my diet (another way that diversity is good ;)). I'd suggest making sure that there's nutritional balance. I haven't yet listened to the diavlog, so I don't know if Bill discusses his diet, but if he's not getting a good range of cuisines, I'd definitely recommend getting a bit of everything.

Honey sounds good too.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 05:47 PM

Re: Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocean (Post 205338)
We could have the Presidential and VP candidates right there! What did SP have that MMcC doesn't? It's mostly the other way around. Well, minus the kids, of course. ;)

Sadly, there is at least one thing that instantly disqualifies MMcC from being asked to join the ticket.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 06:02 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harkin (Post 205300)
Yeah, the way that the news media is tearing Obama apart for his lies, distortions and hypocrisies is a wonder to behold (his '$50 billion' line on Warren Buffet was esp comical).

Don't you see how indicative that is of your problem, harkin? You claim "an msm completely in Obama's pocket," and then when called on that, the best you can come up with in response is a complaint that ... one somewhat murky statement during a moment of extemporaneous Q&A isn't dominating the news cycle for the next 72 hours?

The horror. The horror.

Whether you want to admit it or not, harkin, you are suffering from the consumption of too much wingnut media. The preachers to your choir have had nothing to talk about since the middle of 2008 except how much you're all supposed to hate and fear Obama. And since he is by any reasonable estimation a moderate Republican by the standards of any era except for right now (when the term is an oxymoron), you all are forced to strain at gnats to find things to howl about.

Try changing the channel once in a while. Look at some newspapers that aren't owned by Murdoch. Listen to CDs in your car instead of AM radio. You're tearing yourself up from the inside consuming the poison that you do.

handle 04-22-2011 06:09 PM

Re: Matt does not appreciate that Trump is smart and experienced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miceelf (Post 205324)
Well, yes, other than losing the early primaries which are overweighted by everyone including later voters as being important, it's a fine strategy. Just ask President Guiliani.

Hey, his campaign went extremely well, right up to the part when the voting started. (To paraphrase Jon Stewart)

chiwhisoxx 04-22-2011 06:19 PM

Re: Matt does not appreciate that Trump is smart and experienced
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenvilleSteve (Post 205287)
Matt always seems so far off base. Matt is right that Trump does not have the tempermant or stamina to do door to door campaigning. And maybe loses the first few primaries because of that. But the remaining primaries are all about air time, no?

Like him or not, Trump has a lot of real world experience. He is not intimidated by Karl Rove the way a Pawlenty might be. And I think he is smarter and even a better businessman than his success indicates. His short coming is he is not a team player. He does not have a network of people with standing of their own who work for him or work with him.

Trump is showing republicans how to win, how to beat Obama. Defend the republican base from nasty, unfounded attacks by the establishment. Blame Obama morning, noon and night for the failings of the country. Target China as the non friend of the US it is.

this strategy was a tremendous success for Rudy Giuliani

Ocean 04-22-2011 06:30 PM

Re: Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 205349)
Sadly, there is at least one thing that instantly disqualifies MMcC from being asked to join the ticket.

Ah, come on! No one is perfect! ;)

handle 04-22-2011 06:33 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenvilleSteve (Post 205337)
where is the republican handy man?

Just ignore the dumi and get the Neti, available online. Get the "sinusrinse", as the new cheap Chinese knockoffs from the cheap Chinese stores (Walgreens, Walmart, ect.) will sting the crap out of your nose.


(I do my own handywork, steve, and I used to beat up skinheads "back in the day", and I voted for Obama)

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 06:54 PM

Re: Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocean (Post 205356)
Ah, come on! No one is perfect! ;)

For today's Republican Party, certain imperfections are fatal.

But she's young yet. On this issue, the trend is hopeful. So maybe she can be the VP nominee in, say, 2040. (When she will be trying to unseat President Sasha Obama.)

I mean, this one is not quite as threatening to the very existence of America as saying she thinks a woman should be able to make her own medical decisions. Or that she doesn't believe in God. Or worst of all, that David Koch should pay a bit more in taxes.

bjkeefe 04-22-2011 07:02 PM

Wow
 
Thanks for your support in encouraging Teh New Media types to be less faux-balanced and more open about their leanings, Matt.

[Added] And the longer you go on about this "crashing Facebook" nonsense, the more righteous Kombiz's criticisms sound. Listening to you dance around sounds like the standard rightwing media techniques of HEY I'M ONLY ASKING QUESTIONS!!!1! and IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE NOT TO SPECULATE!!!1! You want to spread a lie and be able to maintain plausible deniability.

You should be aware that your audience on this site is less gullible than your Daily Caller readers.

You can't claim to be "not a reporter" and say that you "do reporting." And even if you want to claim to be a straight-up opinionater, you still have a responsible to check claims of fact, and not just be a stenographer for some political interest group. Because if you don't, you're a hack.

[Added2] Also, I see down farther in Kombiz's post that you're using the Palinism "LSM" in your tweets. That's pretty sad, Matt.

Ocean 04-22-2011 07:12 PM

Re: Blogger for <strike>hire</strike> Trump
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjkeefe (Post 205362)
For today's Republican Party, certain imperfections are fatal.

But she's young yet. On this issue, the trend is hopeful. So maybe she can be the VP nominee in, say, 2040. (When she will be trying to unseat President Sasha Obama.)

I mean, this one is not quite as threatening to the very existence of America as saying she thinks a woman should be able to make her own medical decisions. Or that she doesn't believe in God. Or worst of all, that David Koch should pay a bit more in taxes.

True.

wesangle 04-22-2011 09:45 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Disappointed the Matt Lewis did not discuss Right blog mention/non-mention ofAtlas Shrugged.

eeeeeeeli 04-23-2011 12:03 AM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DenvilleSteve (Post 205288)
Wal-Mart, my favorite store, sells a nasal rinse product for a very reasonable price. Problem of course is hard core democrats can't set foot in a Wal-Mart. Maybe he knows a neutral or the republican handyman in his high rise who can go there for him.

Duh, Target.

I haven't been in a Wal-Mart in at least 5 years. Is it true that they now sell GOP brand orange juice?

Seriously, though. I've always been suspicious of the two stores demographics, particularly in relation to politics and class. Wal-mart caters to a somewhat more upscale consumer. But what about the political and cultural leanings?

Wal-mart became synonymous on the left with corporatism, yet in ways that seem no different in actual practice than Target: cheap foreign made goods, market monopolization, low wages, union busting, etc. Why the love for Target? My guess is it is largely cultural. The left sees gun ammo and teddy-bear leisure wear and thinks of the bible belt and minutemen.

edit: here's an article saying much the same thing. However, the theoretical assertions are still squishy. Conservative voters are upscale too, no? Is there something particularly progressive (culture = politics?) about fashion and design?

sptm 04-23-2011 01:04 AM

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The greatest mixed metaphor of all time.

DenvilleSteve 04-23-2011 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eeeeeeeli (Post 205386)
Wal-mart became synonymous on the left with corporatism, yet in ways that seem no different in actual practice than Target: cheap foreign made goods, market monopolization, low wages, union busting, etc. Why the love for Target? My guess is it is largely cultural. The left sees gun ammo and teddy-bear leisure wear and thinks of the bible belt and minutemen.

I think it is the rural, middle of the country origin of Wal-Mart that the urban based dislike and disrespect. Macy's and Sears and K-Mart ( and Alexander's and Korvette's ) had their urban based monopolies for years. They were no match for the half as greedy Wal-Mart. The fact that NYC does not allow Wal-Mart to open a store within its borders speaks volumes of the bias practiced by the establishment who run the city and their willingness to twist the rule of law.

I was going to brag and say I can go into any store, regardless of its politics and culture. But truthfully, I can't handle Steve Jobs and Apple. And Starbucks is too much of a barrier to entry. ( oh yeah, and GM is dead to me. )

bkjazfan 04-23-2011 08:54 AM

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Even though I rarely see or go to movie theatres anymore I noticed my favorite film critic Roger Ebert has panned "Atlas Shrugged Part 1."

Every once in awhile if I have read a book that they have made a movie from I will see it. Examples of these are "LA Confidential," "No Country For Old Men," and "Revolutionary Road," and "The Reader." I think I'll take a powder on "Atlas" (yeh, I read it).

As her protege and legal heir to the Ayn Rand estate (he won a lottery there) Leonard Peikoff has stated: "her entire philosophy is contained in that book." So be it.

operative 04-23-2011 09:33 AM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eeeeeeeli (Post 205386)
Duh, Target.

I haven't been in a Wal-Mart in at least 5 years. Is it true that they now sell GOP brand orange juice?

Seriously, though. I've always been suspicious of the two stores demographics, particularly in relation to politics and class. Wal-mart caters to a somewhat more upscale consumer. But what about the political and cultural leanings?

Wal-mart became synonymous on the left with corporatism, yet in ways that seem no different in actual practice than Target: cheap foreign made goods, market monopolization, low wages, union busting, etc. Why the love for Target? My guess is it is largely cultural. The left sees gun ammo and teddy-bear leisure wear and thinks of the bible belt and minutemen.

edit: here's an article saying much the same thing. However, the theoretical assertions are still squishy. Conservative voters are upscale too, no? Is there something particularly progressive (culture = politics?) about fashion and design?

I'd say that those left tend to be more broadly concerned with aesthetics than the right. Fashion and art related areas tend to be very heavily left-wing.

badhatharry 04-23-2011 09:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bkjazfan (Post 205396)
Even though I rarely see or go to movie theatres anymore I noticed my favorite film critic Roger Ebert has panned "Atlas Shrugged Part 1."

Every once in awhile if I have read a book that they have made a movie from I will see it. Examples of these are "LA Confidential," "No Country For Old Men," and "Revolutionary Road," and "The Reader." I think I'll take a powder on "Atlas" (yeh, I read it).

As her protege and legal heir to the Ayn Rand estate (he won a lottery there) Leonard Peikoff has stated: "her entire philosophy is contained in that book." So be it.

The problem with Atlas Shrugged Part 1 is probably that it followed the book closely.

I read Meagan McArdle's review' review which was quite good and expressed my feelings about the book.

Ayn Rand was not a very good writer. Perhaps, if her novel had been written in Russian it might have played better, but as it is, the dialog was pretentious and unrealistic, the plot was predictable and idiot proof.

However, her ideas survive the artlessness of her novel. She was actually a rather accurate prognosticator.

graz 04-23-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by operative (Post 205404)
I'd say that those left tend to be more broadly concerned with aesthetics than the right. Fashion and art related areas tend to be very heavily left-wing.

Right wing extremists says: I hate visual art. Museums suck.

graz 04-23-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 205406)

However, her ideas survive the artlessness of her novel. She was actually a rather accurate prognosticator.

Do tell.

operative 04-23-2011 09:51 AM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graz (Post 205407)
Right wing extremists says: I hate visual art. Museums suck.

Ah finally we have a definition of "Right Wing Extremist": one who hates visual art.

graz 04-23-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by operative (Post 205410)
Ah finally we have a definition of "Right Wing Extremist": one who hates visual art.

No. The two just happen to coincide in the personage of you: operative; Right Wing Extremist!

operative 04-23-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 205411)
No. The two just happen to coincide in the personage of you: operative; Right Wing Extremist!

Oh, so not all people who hate art are RWE, eh?

badhatharry 04-23-2011 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by operative (Post 205414)
Oh, so not all people who hate art are RWE, eh?

I love art and Target.

operative 04-23-2011 10:23 AM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 205417)
I love art and Target.

Clearly we must cast you out of the ranks before your infidel habits pollute our ranks!

I'm actually much more of a Democrat than a Republican in television choices--I go for Mad Men, not Dancing With the Stars (ugh).

badhatharry 04-23-2011 12:10 PM

Re: The Week in Blog: Lozenges Not Included (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by graz (Post 205408)
Do tell.

Barack Obama:

Quote:

In America, we have this strong bias toward individual action. You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing. But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient. We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations.
Ayn Rand:

Quote:

Collectivism means the subjugation of the individual to a group—whether to a race, class or state does not matter. Collectivism holds that man must be chained to collective action and collective thought for the sake of what is called “the common good.”

Modern collectivists . . . see society as a super-organism, as some supernatural entity apart from and superior to the sum of its individual members.
Quote:

Socialism is not a movement of the people. It is a movement of the intellectuals, originated, led and controlled by the intellectuals, carried by them out of their stuffy ivory towers into those bloody fields of practice where they unite with their allies and executors: the thugs.

handle 04-23-2011 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by operative (Post 205418)
Clearly we must cast you out of the ranks before your infidel habits pollute our ranks!

I'm actually much more of a Democrat than a Republican in television choices--I go for Mad Men, not Dancing With the Stars (ugh).

Now were are polarizing the entertainment shows? WTF? Many of the partners in Sterling Cooper, and Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce were repubs, so I gotta wonder if you really watched the show.
And stereotyping your own tribe with "Dancing"? You really might wanna step back from the forum for a while. Not sure you are furthering your cause.

operative 04-23-2011 02:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by handle (Post 205454)
Now were are polarizing the entertainment shows? WTF? Many of the partners in Sterling Cooper, and Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce were repubs, so I gotta wonder if you really watched the show.
And stereotyping your own tribe with "Dancing"? You really might wanna step back from the forum for a while. Not sure you are furthering your cause.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blo...-wing-tv-43558

handle 04-23-2011 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by operative (Post 205459)

Now you are supporting with links? Isn't this the kind of pigeonholing you should object to? Doesn't this expose most rebubs as non-intellectual?

Waaaiit....I get it.. you fancy yourself one of the puppet masters, and not one of the puppets, but the fact that you haven't reaped any of the benefits of the elite corporatists means you are just a groupie, right? And how's that workin' for ya?

Hey Denville, pretty sure this smug mormon guy thinks you are not so smart, and wants to cash in on manipulating you.


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