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Bloggin' Noggin 04-22-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Zeitgeistial Straws in the Wind

Originally Posted by pod2 (Post 74567)
I have to agree with bjkeefe's characterization. It seems that Jim has made a willful trip to damn the facts mindless talking points pundit. When David actually quoted Obama's remarks and interpreted the plain text in a way consistent with Obama's views that have been expressed on CHarlie Rose, or in Indiana, Jim, instead of engaging this interpretation and disputing it by pointing to the quote or citing which part of the argument was mistaken, just threw out a dismissive, 'well, if you are a literary critic at some ivy league elitist institution, blah blah.' This approach is completely dishonest. How can you have a conversation with someone when, if you attempt to make a point, the other guy simply refuses to address any of your points, but just dismisses you as an elitist. This knee-jerk resort to 'elitist' as an all purpose contentless epithet reminds me of the cultural revolution in China, where class background trumps all discussions over whether something works or is true. slapping the elitist label on someone as a way to end discussion is vulgarly marxist leninist in the worst sense.

Republicanism: Marxism-Leninism for the overprivileged?
I wonder where Jim went to school? -- Oh Stanford. Well, I guess that isn't Ivy League, but it surely counts as "elite."

jh in sd 04-22-2008 02:51 PM

Re: Zeitgeistial Straws in the Wind
Quoting Thomas Sowell-"In politics, the clearer a statement is, the more certain it is to be followed by a clarification, when people react adversely to what was plainly said."

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