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graz 09-06-2011 11:21 PM

from Savage & Douthat
 
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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224892)
Props to Dan for articulating my position on the failure of monogamy. Am I the only commenter to hold this view?

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224769)
as far as I know, I'm the only one interested in that.

You're just special. It's a pattern.

sugarkang 09-06-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 224896)
You're just special. It's a pattern.

Thanks. Your pattern is to habitually read the worst possible motives in people who don't belong to your in-group. I suppose we're both special.

Don Zeko 09-06-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224898)
Thanks. Your pattern is to habitually read the worst possible motives in people who don't belong to your in-group. I suppose we're both special.

Considering how easy it is to make assumptions about people's personal lives in an argument about monogamy, I think Graz is being remarkably reserved.

sugarkang 09-07-2011 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Zeko (Post 224903)
Considering how easy it is to make assumptions about people's personal lives in an argument about monogamy, I think Graz is being remarkably reserved.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what he was so remarkably reserved about. By all means be as specific and explicit as possible. Or will you leave this conversation thread unanswered like the others?

Don Zeko 09-07-2011 12:33 AM

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Well that was certainly hostile. I don't know what he could have said; Graz is a much more creative shit-talker than I am. But yes, I apologize profusely for not talking to you any more. It was very inconsiderate of me, and yet I doubt that I will reform on this point going forward.

sugarkang 09-07-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Zeko (Post 224911)
Well that was certainly hostile. I don't know what he could have said; Graz is a much more creative shit-talker than I am. But yes, I apologize profusely for not talking to you any more. It was very inconsiderate of me, and yet I doubt that I will reform on this point going forward.

Ah, well. As long as we're agreed that you lost the argument on the actual merits.

Don Zeko 09-07-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224920)
Ah, well. As long as we're agreed that you lost the argument on the actual merits.

Sure, whatever gets you off.

popcorn_karate 09-07-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224920)
Ah, well. As long as we're agreed that you lost the argument on the actual merits.

speaking of old arguments unresolved...

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 222655)
Measuring oil by gold, the price per gallon is something like 25 cents.

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Originally Posted by popcorn_karate (Post 222924)
1) if we measure both gold and oil by dollars, why when gold and oil are measured against each other would this difference manifest?

i.e. 1 oz of gold = 1800 dollars and one gallon of gas equals 4 dollars, so shouldn't a gallon of gas be worth 1/450 of an ounce of gold?


2) if you are measuring oil by gold, how can you end up with units of "cents"?


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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 222928)
It's $1,900 now.


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Originally Posted by popcorn_karate (Post 222929)
is that an admission that the rest of your post made zero sense? if you have some way to explain what you were thinking...


anything to add? Your posts above don't give me much confidence in your thinking about economics.

chiwhisoxx 09-07-2011 08:32 PM

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this discussion merited a dungeon move? really?

graz 09-07-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chiwhisoxx (Post 225047)
this discussion merited a dungeon move? really?

You are too kind to call it a discussion ... but really ... pathetic isn't it?
I imagine it was construed that my highlighting the never ending self regard and thread bogarting of the alleged law school graduate (wastrel) was a good start point for the tepid escalation that ensued.

Did you see that he reintroduced the idea again in the original thread that he alone among forum participants holds the idea that Dan championed. Really?Let's give him a prize or something.

bjkeefe 09-07-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 224896)
You're just special. It's a pattern.

I am shocked, shocked that this innocuous comment would be sent to the dungeon.

Of course the exact same comment would have been equally banished had it been posted by one of Our Treasured Conservative Commenters.

Of course.

bjkeefe 09-07-2011 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 224920)
Ah, well. As long as we're agreed that you lost the argument on the actual merits.

What is it with wingnuts and their premature eagerness to proclaim themselves victorious?

(A rhetorical question if there ever was one.)

TwinSwords 09-08-2011 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 225048)
I imagine it was construed that my highlighting the never ending self regard and thread bogarting of the alleged law school graduate ....

Wait. He really claims that?

LOL!

osmium 09-08-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiwhisoxx (Post 225047)
this discussion merited a dungeon move? really?

sometimes it's the only section i read.

graz 09-08-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinSwords (Post 225070)
Wait. He really claims that?

LOL!

Well By the timestamps on his posts, my math suggests that he ought to be plying his trade by now ... Don't ya think? Maybe he's waiting for a slot on the Island of Peter Thiel?
http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showth...7789#post97789
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lawyers ON AVERAGE make 85K per year. these people would get a tax cut. save me the crap about steep student loan payments because i'm in law school now.
http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showth...243#post103243
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I'm in law school. I win and lose arguments all the time. I argue for positions I don't believe in. I enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing because I believe it will help me fine tune my craft.

Wonderment 09-08-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by osmium (Post 225169)
sometimes it's the only section i read.

Immensely more entertaining than Obama's speech, but not as good as the Republican debate yesterday where Rick Perry compared himself to Galileo!

miceelf 09-08-2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonderment (Post 225178)
Immensely more entertaining than Obama's speech, but not as good as the Republican debate yesterday where Rick Perry compared himself to Galileo!

Well, Galileo DID have pretty good hair.

He also fathered a passel of kids out of wedlock, so perhaps this was an attempt to ease his way into some kind of rolling disclosure.

sugarkang 09-09-2011 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by popcorn_karate (Post 225038)
anything to add? Your posts above don't give me much confidence in your thinking about economics.

What's there for me to tell you that you already don't want to hear? Here's something new.

sugarkang 09-09-2011 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 225174)
...

Do you ever wear yourself out from cherry picking all day? I hear it's tough work.

Context.

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I think you've misunderstood my intent. I am a moral subjectivist. Therefore, some values that I consider to be valid will conflict. Abortion is a clear case example of that. I have an opinion on it, but I can make arguments for both sides. Representing one side isn't dishonesty. Justice Brennan personally despised abortion and he's one of the greatest liberal Justices in our history.

popcorn_karate 09-09-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 225200)
What's there for me to tell you that you already don't want to hear? Here's something new.

pretty pathetic response. is it really that hard to admit you may have written something mistakenly or that it needs more explanation?

osmium 09-09-2011 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miceelf (Post 225180)
Well, Galileo DID have pretty good hair.

He also fathered a passel of kids out of wedlock, so perhaps this was an attempt to ease his way into some kind of rolling disclosure.

Brecht thought Galileo was a coward. But then again I hate Brecht.

Galileo!

graz 09-09-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 225201)
Do you ever wear yourself out from cherry picking all day?

But I love cherries. From the sweet and tart Amarena to the Bing . You on the other hand attempted to avoid the glaring spotlight shone on your legal expertise. I hear Somalia (libertarian dream) is ripe for legal minds, if not delicious cherries.

Ocean 09-09-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 225247)
But I love cherries. From the sweet and tart Amarena to the Bing . You on the other hand attempted to avoid the glaring spotlight shone on your legal expertise. I hear Somalia (libertarian dream) is ripe for legal minds, if not delicious cherries.

Rainier. ;)

TwinSwords 09-09-2011 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 225201)
Do you ever wear yourself out from cherry picking all day? I hear it's tough work.

Context.

That "context" has nothing -- not a thing -- to do with what graz was talking about.

You know what that means? That means it's not context. Nice attempt at a smoke screen.

TwinSwords 09-09-2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by graz (Post 225174)
Well By the timestamps on his posts, my math suggests that he ought to be plying his trade by now ... Don't ya think? Maybe he's waiting for a slot on the Island of Peter Thiel?
http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showth...7789#post97789


http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showth...243#post103243

Wow, that's interesting. I wonder what ever happened.

We can be sure of one thing: Had he graduated, he'd be bragging about it constantly.

graz 09-10-2011 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TwinSwords (Post 225275)
Wow, that's interesting. I wonder what ever happened.

We can be sure of one thing: Had he graduated, he'd be bragging about it constantly.

Please stop. You might inspire him to tell us more about what makes him tick, again, and then again as if we haven't read it enough times already. Then badhat will chime in about how interesting it all is. While repeating it back and asking the same again. Is that really what you want? He obviously has enough free time from lawyering to drive us all to drinking heavily. Would that be an actionable offense? Let's get an opinion from someone who plays a student and lover of the law on the Internet. Anyone?

ledocs 09-10-2011 08:30 AM

Re: Values Added: Monagamish Edition (Dan Savage & Ross Douthat)
 
Zeko, way to go! I figure that when you stop talking to someone, that person is really not worth talking to. That person should stop whacking off in public.

AemJeff 09-10-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ledocs (Post 225286)
Zeko, way to go! I figure that when you stop talking to someone, that person is really not worth talking to. That person should stop whacking off in public.

QFT.

badhatharry 09-10-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ledocs (Post 225286)
Zeko, way to go! I figure that when you stop talking to someone, that person is really not worth talking to.

pathetic. the blind leading the blind.


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