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Bloggingheads 07-08-2011 03:01 PM

The Week in Blog: What's Wrong With Being Sexy? (Bill Scher & Matt Lewis)
 

Ocean 07-08-2011 03:04 PM

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Nothing!

sugarkang 07-08-2011 03:26 PM

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Matt, are there really libertarians who don't want tax breaks for charities? I can understand that from a really extreme theoretical standpoint maybe if you're talking in abstractions for a class. Do these people really exist?

look 07-08-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocean (Post 215902)
Nothing!

:)

look 07-08-2011 04:19 PM

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lol Matt Lewis...maybe you are the 70 y/o guy with a cigar if you haven't been invited to google+
:)

harkin 07-08-2011 04:21 PM

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One really wonders how long the David Frums and David Brooks of the world will allow themselves to be played but maybe they really think its worth looking so incredibly uninformed in exchange for being every liberal host's go-to conservative basher and party guest.

As to speaking errors, even if you accept the falsehood that Bachmann confused Gacy (who was not born in Waterloo or live there as a child, living there only as an adult in 1966-68, although he did discover he was gay there) with Wayne, list her gaffes alongside those of Obama or Biden and then realize the media double-standard.

bkjazfan 07-08-2011 04:44 PM

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Matt stated the obvious: Michelle Bachmann is a looker! It never hurts - that's for sure. Beauty is pleasing to the eye.

To offset the New York Times David Brooks lambasting repubs for not wanting to raise taxes, Gretchen Mortenson of the same paper wrote a book doing the same to Fannie and Freddie for the housing debacle. Apparently, dems like to target the banks more than F & F for the foreclosure mess. I haven't read either of them.

chamblee54 07-08-2011 05:26 PM

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Matt knows a big word. He does not suffer false modesty.
Forget it Matt. He will tell you to set yourself on fire.

chamblee54

miceelf 07-08-2011 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bkjazfan (Post 215932)
Matt stated the obvious: Michelle Bachmann is a looker! It never hurts - that's for sure. Beauty is pleasing to the eye.

You left out "...for a politician."

I felt the same thing for Sarah Palin. If either of them were in many other professions, whether it be newscasting, or veterinary medicine or sales or skeet shooting, no one would be comment on them being lookers. They're only good looking compared to most politicians.

Either that, or I have been incredibly lucky in the people I encounter in my day to day real life world.

AemJeff 07-08-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by miceelf (Post 215938)
You left out "...for a politician."

I felt the same thing for Sarah Palin. If either of them were in many other professions, whether it be newscasting, or veterinary medicine or sales or skeet shooting, no one would be comment on them being lookers. They're only good looking compared to most politicians.

Either that, or I have been incredibly lucky in the people I encounter in my day to day real life world.

I don't quite agree with you, though maybe it's just a question of emphasis. Both Bachmann and Palin are extraordinarily good looking. That they're both very successful politicians probably isn't entirely unrelated to that; and Palin was, in fact, a broadcaster before she was a politician. (When you consider that Bachmann is closer to sixty than fifty, her looks seem clearly to be in the top percentile.) I could make a not-quite-untrue crack about the Republican party being largely a party of frustrated men (and how women like these two, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Pamela Oshry/Gellar and others benefit from that) - but regardless, it seems clear that good looks are big asset to a political career, though obviously not a requirement. I really don't think that the good looks of these women are simply incidental or that it's something that ought to be beneath notice.

look 07-08-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AemJeff (Post 215943)
I don't quite agree with you, though maybe it's just a question of emphasis. Both Bachmann and Palin are extraordinarily good looking. That they're both very successful politicians probably isn't entirely unrelated to that; and Palin was, in fact, a broadcaster before she was a politician. (When you consider that Bachmann is closer to sixty than fifty, her looks seem clearly to be in the top percentile.) I could make a not-quite-untrue crack about the Republican party being largely a party of frustrated men (and how women like these two, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Pamela Oshry/Gellar and others benefit from that) - but regardless, it seems clear that good looks are big asset to a political career, though obviously not a requirement. I really don't think that the good looks of these women are simply incidental or that it's something that ought to be beneath notice.

How did you come to that conclusion?

chamblee54 07-08-2011 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by look (Post 215944)
How did you come to that conclusion?

1. It seems fairly obvious.
2. Many Democrats are frustrated human beings.
chamblee54

look 07-08-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chamblee54 (Post 215946)
1. It seems fairly obvious.
2. Many Democrats are frustrated human beings.
chamblee54

lol Thanks, Jeff. Will you flesh out point 1 with some examples?

miceelf 07-08-2011 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AemJeff (Post 215943)
I don't quite agree with you, though maybe it's just a question of emphasis. Both Bachmann and Palin are extraordinarily good looking. That they're both very successful politicians probably isn't entirely unrelated to that; and Palin was, in fact, a broadcaster before she was a politician. (When you consider that Bachmann is closer to sixty than fifty, her looks seem clearly to be in the top percentile.)

I will concede that Michelle Bachmann looks above average for a 60 year old woman. I just don't think either are extraordinarily good looking if we are comparing them to any other broad class of people other than politicians.

A better looking woman than either of them sits downstairs at the security desk in my apartment building. Another one sold me a sandwich for lunch. I had a meeting with another today. I will bump into a whole bunch at church on sunday.

I guess for me, I bump into more better looking women during the course of a normal day than I can count on my fingers.

Strokes for folks I guess.

apple 07-08-2011 09:01 PM

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The Iranian presidential elections are in 2013. Maybe Batshit Bachmann can don a chador and run for president there. Her views are more in sync with the founding father of the Iranian theocracy, Khamenei, than they are with the founding fathers of the USA.

sugarkang 07-08-2011 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chamblee54 (Post 215946)
1. It seems fairly obvious.
2. Many Democrats are frustrated human beings.
chamblee54

Thank God, I'm not the only one that sees through this logic. It's hilarious the way you pointed it out. Not so hilarious that this is actually his line of reasoning.

brucds 07-08-2011 11:01 PM

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Matt verified that when it comes to economics, "conservatives" are the equivalent of creationists. Total loonies who argue against every shred of evidence. Nothing he qualified as articles of the right-wing faith have any basis in the real world.

These people are total f-ing idiots. And they'll take us off the cliff if it feeds their ideological megalomania.

sugarkang 07-09-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brucds (Post 215973)
Matt verified that when it comes to economics, "conservatives" are the equivalent of creationists. Total loonies who argue against every shred of evidence. Nothing he qualified as articles of the right-wing faith have any basis in the real world.

These people are total f-ing idiots. And they'll take us off the cliff if it feeds their ideological megalomania.

1. These right wingers are insane.
2. I know this to be true because the evidence they present is deemed false by me.
3. Therefore, these right wingers are insane.

I like it, brucds. I like it.

rcocean 07-09-2011 12:27 AM

What's Wrong With Being Sexy?
 
Are Bill and Matt really qualified to answer?

brucds 07-09-2011 12:49 AM

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I know this to be true because there's close to zero empirical evidence to back up their faith. The notion that tax cuts and austerity are the key to growth in this economy or that the government deficits are causing unemployment or slowing recovery barely qualifies as stupid.

The current phony hysterics over the deficit and debt ceiling is not even close to being a balanced debate between two groups of pragmatists with reasoned differences. But believe what you will...

Incidentally, Bill actually referred to some real-world evidence to support his position - although this wasn't a deep debate - while Matt just paused, stumbled and repeated talking points. But that's the way this nonsense plays out when you engage "conservatives." They don't really care about anything other than their belief system. What's becoming most maddening about the current debate is how boring it is for anyone who actually knows anything about economics. It's like listening to children babble and the flaming nutcases - like Bachmann - and craven opportunists like Pawlenty and Romney aren't saying much different than the "professional" hacks who work for Heritage, etc. The level at which "conservatives" operate with their econ messaging is almost uniformly low and utterly ridiculous.

sugarkang 07-09-2011 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brucds (Post 215994)
The notion that tax cuts and austerity are the key to growth in this economy or that the government deficits are causing unemployment or slowing recovery barely qualifies as stupid.

I see.

Could you please identify, by name, the peddlers of false economics as well the champions of truth economics. And because the conservative idea of economic recovery "barely qualifies as stupid," could you provide a reasonably intelligent overview of the situation in economic terms and specific policy proposals?

chiwhisoxx 07-09-2011 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rcocean (Post 215989)
Are Bill and Matt really qualified to answer?

lol

Unit 07-09-2011 08:24 AM

Bill asks a good question
 
To which Matt has no answer. Apparently Karl Rove commented on the merits. I'm not taking sides in this dispute, but maybe since this is supposed to be a review of the blogosphere, Bill and Matt could consider a more serious effort to read wide and randomly, maybe using Google, rather than the usual sources. This would help having a discussion "on the merits".

Here's my source: Angus and Rove.

badhatharry 07-09-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by harkin (Post 215924)
One really wonders how long the David Frums and David Brooks of the world will allow themselves to be played but maybe they really think its worth looking so incredibly uninformed in exchange for being every liberal host's go-to conservative basher and party guest.

They stand apart, unsullied by partisanship. They're special.

badhatharry 07-09-2011 09:54 AM

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Quoting Aemjeff: I could make a not-quite-untrue crack about the Republican party being largely a party of frustrated men (and how women like these two, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Pamela Oshry/Gellar and others benefit from that) - but regardless, it seems clear that good looks are big asset to a political career, though obviously not a requirement. I really don't think that the good looks of these women are simply incidental or that it's something that ought to be beneath notice.
Pardon me for not getting your very sophisticated wink-wink, but what makes you think republican men are frustrated and in what way? And what the hell does republican men being frustrated have to do with good looking women being spokesmen for the party? Are we talking about maybe a picture of Michelle next to the toilet?

And then you go on to say that all these women's good looks are not incidental. Not incidental to what?

Where the hell are the 'sexism' police?

badhatharry 07-09-2011 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 215995)
And because the conservative idea of economic recovery "barely qualifies as stupid," could you provide a reasonably intelligent overview of the situation in economic terms and specific policy proposals?

very simple. more stimulus, more government, eat the rich.

AemJeff 07-09-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 216018)
Pardon me for not getting your very sophisticated wink-wink, but what makes you think republican men are frustrated and in what way? And what the hell does republican men being frustrated have to do with good looking women being spokesmen for the party? Are we talking about maybe a picture of Michelle next to the toilet?

And then you go on to say that all these women's good looks are not incidental. Not incidental to what?

Where the hell are the 'sexism' police?

Their looks are not incidental to their success as politicians- I really do think I provided enough context to figure that out. If you've ever read right-wing blogs, listened to right-wing talk radio, listened to some idiot go on at length about how his guns are empowering, watched the same people gobble up Sarah-at-the-trigger porn, taken notice when another idiot challenges Ezra Klein to a boxing match because Ezra challenged Michelle Malkin to a public debate, or any of a thousand other manifestations - then you can easily see how the right has created an industry of manipulation, capitalizing on that frustration and channeling it into a potent political force. Note, before you start accusing me of various fallacies that I haven't committed, that I haven't said this is the sole characteristic of the right, or that there isn't some of the same thing on the left. Also take note that I was making a joke that I think is just true enough to be pretty funny.

brucds 07-09-2011 03:11 PM

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At the elementary level that's appropriate here, for anyone who is wondering why I think that so-called "conservatives" in the current climate are idiots regarding econ policy, start with this observation by Steve Benen...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/pol...work030769.php

It's not a textbook or a treatise, but it's probably more than any of the usual suspects hooting at me for deeper comment here deserves. Beyond that, I'm not your daddy and if you can't figure out why an insistent ideology of tax cuts as a solution to every problem isn't fiscal conservatism but pure profligacy or why deliberately created deficits hasn't been a Right-wing strategy that has nothing to do with economics and everything to do with the most cynical politics imaginable, I can't help you.

Maybe you're so smart you can explain some of this shit that makes zero sense but every GOP pol regurgitates. Paul Ryan is the worst among them. His plan to kill Medicare actually raises health care costs - not just out-of-pocket but the overall cost of care for seniors because the private markets are more inflationary than Medicare. It's crazy, but fools - apparently including some of the geniuses here - are too stupid to deal with the economic facts. Of course, if you don't want to deal with numbers and figures like CBO projections, you're simply in faith-based territory. Which is why I make the point that there's no evidence supporting garbage like Ryan's kill Medicare scheme as "fiscal conservatism." But believe whatever you want. Hell, derive your "values based" schemes and belief systems from Scientology, Satanism or the Gospel According to Ayn Rand. Just don't act like you're dealing with anything that can be substantiated from evidence.

Or spend some time here and get back to me...

http://titanicsailsatdawn.blogspot.com/

More on Ryan's idiocy...

http://titanicsailsatdawn.blogspot.c...e-utterly.html

http://titanicsailsatdawn.blogspot.c...an-to-end.html

But of course it all makes sense!
Because...
http://titanicsailsatdawn.blogspot.c...ryan-post.html

sugarkang 07-09-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brucds (Post 216059)
At the elementary level that's appropriate here, for anyone who is wondering why I think that so-called "conservatives" in the current climate are idiots regarding econ policy, start with this observation by Steve Benen...

Quote:

Wikipedia:
Steve Benen (born May 15, 1973) is an American political writer and blogger, and became the lead blogger for the Washington Monthly's "Political Animal" blog in August 2008.
Your authority on economics matters is a blogger?

badhatharry 07-09-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AemJeff (Post 216052)
Their looks are not incidental to their success as politicians- I really do think I provided enough context to figure that out.

Not really, but I won't make a deal out of it unless what you mean is that attractive people have an easier time than unattracative ones which seems pretty trivial and not worth mentioning.

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If you've ever read right-wing blogs, listened to right-wing talk radio, listened to some idiot go on at length about how his guns are empowering, watched the same people gobble up Sarah-at-the-trigger porn, taken notice when another idiot challenges Ezra Klein to a boxing match because Ezra challenged Michelle Malkin to a public debate, or any of a thousand other manifestations - then you can easily see how the right has created an industry of manipulation, capitalizing on that frustration and channeling it into a potent political force.
Oh yeah I forgot about all that deeply psychological stuff, sorry. People on the right couldn't possibly have a rational viewpoint and everything in their crazy brains is put there by an industry of manipulation.

PS. What accounts for Nancy Pelosi?

badhatharry 07-09-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brucds (Post 216059)
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Which is why I make the point that there's no evidence supporting garbage like Ryan's kill Medicare scheme as "fiscal conservatism." But believe whatever you want. Hell, derive your "values based" schemes and belief systems from Scientology, Satanism or the Gospel According to Ayn Rand. Just don't act like you're dealing with anything that can be substantiated from evidence.

No rant about conservatives would be complete without a hat tip to that sexy Russian sweetie, Ayn Rand. And what's wrong with being sexy?

Hal Morris 07-09-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brucds View Post
Matt verified that when it comes to economics, "conservatives" are the equivalent of creationists. Total loonies who argue against every shred of evidence. Nothing he qualified as articles of the right-wing faith have any basis in the real world.

These people are total f-ing idiots. And they'll take us off the cliff if it feeds their ideological megalomania.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarkang (Post 215986)
1. These right wingers are insane.
2. I know this to be true because the evidence they present is deemed false by me.
3. Therefore, these right wingers are insane.

I like it, brucds. I like it.

Actually brucds just made some assertions, which one is entitled to do from time to time. I don't see any of the pretense of logic that you impute to him. (s)He did some namecalling, and you responded by giving an inaccurate summary of what he said (If you'd stopped at "These right wingers are insane." you'd have gotten him about right). Anyway, you give your inaccurate summary and then say sarcastically "I like it..."

Now I could be sarcastic and say something like "Wow! Brilliant analysis", but I'm tired of this intellectual equivalent of "Big Time Wrestling", all posturing and chest beating.

sugarkang 07-09-2011 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Morris (Post 216095)
Anyway, you give your inaccurate summary and then say sarcastically "I like it..."

Now I could be sarcastic and say something like "Wow! Brilliant analysis", but I'm tired of this intellectual equivalent of "Big Time Wrestling", all posturing and chest beating.

Please explain why the summary was inaccurate. And in what way would you like me to provide an analysis of the argument? Should I preface each sentence with a "sir" or "master"? Don't answer that.

Please explain why the summary was inaccurate.

AemJeff 07-09-2011 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 216072)
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PS. What accounts for Nancy Pelosi?

Are you suggesting an analogy? Can you imagine a legion of liberal Onanists engaged in personal worship of the former Speaker? Somewhat less graphically, her political success doesn't seem due to anything like the cults of personality cultivated by Palin, Coulter, Bachmann, et al - the evidence would seem to suggest she's just good at the mechanics of politics: arm twisting, deal-making, coalition-building. In other words she seems a lot more like Boehner than the Republican women I've named.

badhatharry 07-09-2011 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AemJeff (Post 216102)
Are you suggesting an analogy? Can you imagine a legion of liberal Onanists engaged in personal worship of the former Speaker? Somewhat less graphically, her political success doesn't seem due to anything like the cults of personality cultivated by Palin, Coulter, Bachmann, et al - the evidence would seem to suggest she's just good at mechanics of politics: arm twisting, deal-making, coalition-building. In other words she seems a lot more like Boehner than the Republican women I've named.

My problem with this is that I don't see the cults of personality as you do.
I think Bachmann represents a framing of the issues that many people agree with. Sarah Palin represents the kind of plain speaking that some people like. Ann Coulter is some kind of warrior in some people's minds. None of these things seems like a cult response or personal worship to me but they are certainly popular. Of course there will always be strange characterizations of these women and I think that some of them may be generated by the left in order to subject them to ridicule. But generally speaking these are women who represent a belief system that some people relate to.

As for the "What accounts for Nancy Pelosi?" What does account for her in a way that does not account for the women mentioned above other than that you like her and find her popularity less suspect? She, along with Palin, Bachmann and Coulter is a woman in the public eye who is ambitious, has an agenda and posesses some power.

look 07-09-2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 216106)
My problem with this is that I don't see the cults of personality as you do.
I think Bachmann represents a framing of the issues that many people agree with. Sarah Palin represents the kind of plain speaking that some people like. Ann Coulter is some kind of warrior in some people's minds. None of these things seems like a cult response or personal worship to me but they are certainly popular. Of course there will always be strange characterizations of these women and I think that some of them may be generated by the left in order to subject them to ridicule. But generally speaking these are women who represent a belief system that some people relate to.

As for the "What accounts for Nancy Pelosi?" What does account for her in a way that does not account for the women mentioned above other than that you like her and find her popularity less suspect? She, along with Palin, Bachmann and Coulter is a woman in the public eye who is ambitious, has an agenda and posesses some power.

Here is a wicked good assessment of Pelosi. Taibbi without the rage. (I may have posted this before.)

http://nymag.com/news/politics/61736/

AemJeff 07-09-2011 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 216106)
My problem with this is that I don't see the cults of personality as you do.
I think Bachmann represents a framing of the issues that many people agree with. Sarah Palin represents the kind of plain speaking that some people like. Ann Coulter is some kind of warrior in some people's minds. None of these things seems like a cult response or personal worship to me but they are certainly popular. Of course there will always be strange characterizations of these women and I think that some of them may be generated by the left in order to subject them to ridicule. But generally speaking these are women who represent a belief system that some people relate to.

As for the "What accounts for Nancy Pelosi?" What does account for her in a way that does not account for the women mentioned above other than that you like her and find her popularity less suspect? She, along with Palin, Bachmann and Coulter is a woman in the public eye who is ambitious, has an agenda and posesses some power.

What makes you think I like "Pelosi?" I think she did something extraordinary in her role getting the ACA passed, but I find her personally oily and uninspiring. (I feel the same way about Boehner.) Denying the existence of personality cults associated with Palin, Bachmann and the rest seems a bit willfully blind to me, regardless of what you think of them personally. e.g.

badhatharry 07-10-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AemJeff (Post 216109)
What makes you think I like "Pelosi?" I think she did something extraordinary in her role getting the ACA passed, but I find her personally oily and uninspiring. (I feel the same way about Boehner.) Denying the existence of personality cults associated with Palin, Bachmann and the rest seems a bit willfully blind to me, regardless of what you think of them personally. e.g.

OK, I'm willfully blind. I think as many people like someone like Pelosi as like the chicks on your list and for similiar reasons. BTW, are there any good looking democrat women? :)

AemJeff 07-10-2011 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by badhatharry (Post 216111)
OK, I'm willfully blind. I think as many people like someone like Pelosi as like the chicks on your list and for similiar reasons. BTW, are there any good looking democrat women? :)

My wife is completely bored with me saying that Debbie Wasserman-Schultz looks like young Lauren Bacall. Pelosi's actually pretty attractive given her age, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by "as many people like someone like Pelosi as like the chicks on your list and for similiar reasons." It's just not the case.

badhatharry 07-10-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by look (Post 216107)
Here is a wicked good assessment of Pelosi.

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For the most part, Pelosi is in a bubble, where much of what passes for politics doesn’t penetrate. Her face, the one with the frozen smile, is her mask. She often seems unaware of how it looks. For her, the world consists of her members, her donors, and her family, plus President Obama and Rahm Emanuel, whom she sometimes speaks to several times a day.
This sounds so right-on. These are the people who run our country. This is the way you get into office. God help us.


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