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Re: Science Saturday: Celestial Couch Potatoes (John Horgan & George Johnson)
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Re: John: Who the HECK is going to be watching us on Christmas Eve?
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I'll try my best to tidy it up, but the rhyme will be, well, pushing it. To both art and science, This sentence has been cast. No matter how much we miss, these programs won't last. Without love or money Now this path we will follow. Until somewhere else we find, What here we find hollow. But for the sake of knowledge, wisdom and curiosity, We console ourselves at the moment, With hope but not animosity. A huge reward, The future will lift, while we wait with patience, Science is our gift! Ocean |
Re: Science Saturday: Celestial Couch Potatoes (John Horgan & George Johnson)
Another entertaining walk-through science topics by J&G.
Not much to add to their conversation, except a couple of thoughts elicited by the reference to Trivers' book. According to John, Trivers is an irascible, deceiving individual, with bipolar disorder, who's had a hard time performing to his capacity. Apparently he has been generous in deceiving his significant others. It is of human nature, to reflect on one's shortcomings, engage in self loathing and at the same time try to normalize such behavior by coming up with a narrative that basically states that we are all deceivers. So, how can one not? Does that mean that his ideas are wrong? No, but they are suspicious. And as usual, with evo psych, there's a lot of interpretation in the light of the results. At least as told by John, altruism and selfishness lose meaning. We invented the idea of altruism to explain something that people do. We also invented the idea of selfishness to explain other attributes. We can invent how they relate to each other. And why. Could we get the same results, procuring allies, investing in potential future returns, in ways that don't involve wanting to help others, wanting to decrease others' suffering, or at times even self sacrifice? If that's the case, and I think it is, then there's more to altruism than self deception. Self deception exists and plentifully. But so what? There's also plenty of good things about people. Perhaps they are anomalies. But that's how we're built. Just random thoughts for what may well be our last Science Saturday with John and George. (Hope not). |
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"I'm a little man. He's, he's a great man. Um, the man's enlarged my mind."
I always try to steer traffic/friends to this site, but they all say its just too hard to get through. Heh!, shows true colors of the educated today. |
Re: Science Saturday: Celestial Couch Potatoes (John Horgan & George Johnson)
I'm not going to comment on the future of bh.tv. I just hope I can watch a diavlog a few times a week. And, I really hope there is a Science Saturday-like diavlog on once a week. This is my favorite feature, and I look forward to it every Saturday. Thank you John Horgan and George Johnson for these classic diavlogs and for all the other guests you have engaged when not talking together.
I hope 2012 is a good year for me and bh.tv, because it is the first podcast I listen to that is provided free that I would consider contributing money to. I love my Kindle. But then, I have few choices here in South Korea to use hardware that can bridge the international gap without too many fees or regulation. I still cannot download certain material or receive software or hardware from most non-Korean outlets. In Korea I have to sign contracts for equipment and services I don't need. The Kindle is exactly what I wanted and I didn't have to pay more for it than it actually costs to make. After that I want to buy a notebook, because I need a keyboard. The tablet is fine for games and media, and maybe with a keyboard connected with USB might be doable. But, it's mostly a social media phenomenon. |
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Thank you for this feature. I really hope you and John can find a way to kep talking and letting us benefit from it.
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Another vote from me for continuing Science Saturday. It's what turned me on to Bloggingheads, podcasting, and indeed, science communication in general. As a scientist, it's been fascinating to see how science journalists think -- and I've learned a lot too. Keep it up John and George, please!
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Bob, the site may change but I still want to see Douglas Murray! Lastly - Merry Christmas everyone |
Re: Science Saturday: Celestial Couch Potatoes (John Horgan & George Johnson)
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http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/402...4:03&out=18:43 is that Bob would still welcome the regulars to come on rather sporadically, and it wouldn't have to be weekly or even monthly. Just that they can come on if they're willing to set things up themselves, and be more self-reliant. |
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Bloggingheads.tv is one of the few sites I check almost daily. It has a lot of content on US politics that doesn't really interest me, but these science/culture/philosophy related videos are really what keep me coming back. For some reason I thought this format was a sure winner.
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Bob:
I for one would miss blogging heads if it disappeared and would especially mis Science Saterday. I look forward to hearing from George & John and their insights and personal travails. While I wish you well with your endeavors at at the Atlantic Monthly I hope you will find a way to keep Bloggingheads.TV on line. Richard from Amherst |
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Pretty WTF for a leftist I'd say. |
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Nothing Bob has said has led me to believe that a Harvard rock star like Steven Pinker wouldn't reappear. Or even a peripheral smarty like Yigal Schleifer on Turkey. Lotta doom, and not much to back it up.
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This is interesting... Amy Wax's daivlog with Glenn Lowery was deleted but the comments remain. But her daivlog with Adam Serwer remains intact a week earlier. It looks like Lowery wanted his daivlog deleted. Can Bob Wright tell us if that was the case? Have other Daivlogs been erased?
The Erased Bloggingheads.... http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/31656 Serwer and Wax http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/31524 |
Re: Science Saturday: Celestial Couch Potatoes (John Horgan & George Johnson)
George - One of my happiest communication media experiences these past few years has been watching you and John do Science Saturday. I sincerely hope you two can find a way to continue with this cool format of Bob's. I don't understand why more people aren't watching - you two guys are fascinating, and your enthusiasm for science is inspiring. It's also quite a pleasure to see how the two of you interact and connect with each other. Most of the others doing Science Saturday have been fun and interesting too, but it'd be wonderful to see you and John together regularly. There must be some way to attract new viewers. Seems to me the problem is marketing; too few adults and children are aware of this thing you do.
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It turns out the Rainbow Coallition - DARPA conspiracy theory I was forming is wrong.
The Wax Loury episode is up -- my computer was down. Strange glitch. |
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In this diavlog, George rightly pushed back against John's nihilistic comments on the value of the Higgs hunt. I agree the discord of trying to score rhetorical points is a problem. But I learn best when friends with different opinions have a friendly exchange of views. |
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I'm afraid I have to amend this promise. JimM47 and I *did* tape a Commenter Klatch, but it turned out that only one side of it actually got taped in intelligible form, owing to gremlins that have yet to be identified. Whether a re-tape can be arranged is uncertain. Meanwhile, I have some very heartening news: John and George, in an email exchange prompted by this diavlog, professed a willingness to do more Bloggingheads dialogues--"now and then" as John put it. So stay tuned to find out what exactly "now and then" means. I hope it means a lot.
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Thanks for the encouraging news.
How about just sending a Facebook or short email notice about bh.tv's future? It only takes a little composition, and then compiling the list of commenter emails. A few clicks and it's done. |
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I'm somewhat surprised that Discovery Channel or other sciencey cable outlets have never put together something similar to Sci Sat (with more graphics/video etc.) John/George, might wanna start talking to your agents about exploring possibilities to hit the big time.
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The point I was trying to make, is that it seems to me that a weekly science roundup type program, wold work pretty well on cable. It would be a niche market, but I would think alot of NOVA viewers and BBC watchers would tune in. Even with slightly less gabbing (which I love) and tighter focus I could imagine John, George, Carl Zimmer, Sean Carroll etc., doing an excellent job with that sort of thing if they ever wanted to supplement their writing and could find an outlet willing to take a chance on some broadcast geekery.
[added:] I do agree with you on why it is far better suited for online but don't think that a tv crossover would be totally impossible. |
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