I just read through the Frum/Greenwald DV's comments. For what it's worth, I'm still very interested in doing an Apollo DV with someone about the whole Obama the candidate vs. Obama the president. should the left be disappointed etc. debate. Seeing as you're both a former Apollo DV'er and the forum's most prolific critic of Obama from the left, I think that you would be the best person to do this with. Any interest?