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JonIrenicus
03-03-2011, 01:49 AM
I had not heard of this book, but I was listening to the author in Medveds show today and it seemed to have an interesting premise.

It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.


The author is a tea party patriot guy so for many that probably disqualifies anything he says, but the title alone highlights an interesting topic.

Anyone read it? I may get the kindle edition after I finish another book called the blade itself (fiction, and damn good).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4rhqb2F6kg

stephanie
03-03-2011, 10:29 AM
It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.

Hardly a universal tendency. I think it's as (or more) likely to go the other way, from my observations.

Ocean
03-03-2011, 07:34 PM
It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.

I haven't read the book, so I don't know what this author's angle is. However, my first thoughts are that people tend to look at those who are disadvantaged with more charity (benevolent goodwill, lenient judgment). The powerful may be seen as people who, by their position of privilege, have a moral obligation towards being charitable. When they are not, when they intentionally and purposefully act on their self interest, with disregard for others who may not be as fortunate, it is pretty common to suspect a major character flaw (greediness, malice). So, in my opinion, there's no exact overlap between the concepts that you describe and what I have observed in others (and myself) to believe.

The author is a tea party patriot guy so for many that probably disqualifies anything he says, but the title alone highlights an interesting topic.


Yes, you're right that it at least would make people be on the defensive, since there have been so many so called Teapartiers that are only (intentionally or unintentionally) part of the propaganda machine that has taken over a group of our population and leads them to defend the interest of the wealthy and powerful instead of the interest of those in need. It's an upside down kind of position, IMO.

popcorn_karate
03-04-2011, 07:44 PM
It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.

that seems to be the opposite of tea party ideology.

bjkeefe
03-04-2011, 07:54 PM
It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.

Square that with this thing that everyone is tweeting: "Are whites racially oppressed? (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?iref=NS1)" (I.e., in the United States.)

The author is a tea party patriot guy ...

Wonder how he'd answer the above question.

bjkeefe
03-04-2011, 08:22 PM
It seems to focus on the phenomenon of peoples tendency to see virtue in the underdog and malice in the powerful, independent of any more objective analysis of either party.

Square that with this thing that everyone is tweeting: "Are whites racially oppressed? (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?iref=NS1)" (I.e., in the United States.)

The author is a tea party patriot guy ...

Wonder how he'd answer the above question.

Possible answer: "Tea Party Worldview (http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/tea-party-worldview-we-are-world.html)."

bjkeefe
03-05-2011, 05:56 PM
Square that with this thing that everyone is tweeting: "Are whites racially oppressed? (http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/white.persecution/index.html?iref=NS1)" (I.e., in the United States.) [...]

David Neiwert (http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/cnn-tries-tackle-white-anxiety-treat): "CNN tries to tackle white anxiety -- by treating white nationalists as credible sources."

Bonus: pretty good Louis C.K. clip at the link.