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rfrobison
12-24-2010, 08:25 AM
And a special thank you to Sixpence None the Richer for this version of an old Spanish Carol. May peace find you this yuletide season (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplJcX3U9DI).

Sure wish I understood Spanish so I could appreciate this song fully. Little help, Ocean?

kezboard
12-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Merry Christmas! If you fast all day today, you might see a golden pig, or so the weird tradition around here goes.

operative
12-24-2010, 10:01 AM
And a special thank you to Sixpence None the Richer for this version of an old Spanish Carol. May peace find you this yuletide season (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplJcX3U9DI).

Sure wish I understood Spanish so I could appreciate this song fully. Little help, Ocean?

Yes, I concur, Merry Christmas to all.

AemJeff
12-24-2010, 12:29 PM
Merry Christmas, Rob!

Ocean
12-24-2010, 01:01 PM
And a special thank you to Sixpence None the Richer for this version of an old Spanish Carol. May peace find you this yuletide season (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RplJcX3U9DI).

Sure wish I understood Spanish so I could appreciate this song fully. Little help, Ocean?

Here is another modernized version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHGcen7OoNU&feature=related) of the same old Spanish song. It has the lyrics included with the video. And here's the wiki page with a translation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADu_R%C3%ADu_Ch%C3%ADu).

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays!

SkepticDoc
12-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Merry Sol Invictus!
Should we commemorate Mithra also?

Riu, riu, chiu
La guarda ribera
Dios guarde el lobo
De nuestra cordera.

El lobo rabioso la quiso morder,
Mas Dios poderoso la supo defender;
Quisole hazer que no pudiesse pecar,
Ni aun original esta Virgen no tuviera.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc.

Este qu'es nascido es el gran monarca,
Cristo patriarca de carne vestido;
Hanos redimido con se hazer chiquito,
Aunqu'era infinito, finito se hizera.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc.

Muchas profecias lo han profetizado,
Y aun en nuestros dias lo hemos alcancado.
A Dios humanado vemos en el suelo
Y al hombre nel cielo porqu'er le quisiera.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc.

Yo vi mil Garzones que andavan cantando,
Por aqui bolando, haciendo mil sones,
Diziendo a gascones Gloria sea en el cielo,
Y paz en el suelo qu'es Jesus nascieta.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc.

Este viene a dar a los muertos vida
Y viene a reparar de todos la caida;
Es la luz del dia aqueste mocuelo;
Este es el cordero que San Juan dixera.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc.

Pues que ya tenemos lo que desseamos,
Todos juntos vamos presentes llevemos;
Todos le daremos nuestra voluntad,
Pues a se igualar con el hombre viniera.
Riu, riu, chiu, etc


More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/christmas_songs/#share


TRANSLATION:

Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb

The rabid wolf tried to bite her
But God Almighty knew how to defend her
He wished to create her impervious to sin
Nor was this maid to embody original sin
Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb

He comes to give life to the dead
He comes to redeem the fall of man
This child is the light of day
He is the very lamb Saint John prophecied

Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb

A thousand singing herons
I saw passing,
Flying overhead, sounding
A thousand voices
Exhulting, "Glory be in the
heavens, and peace on earth,
for Jesus has been born."

Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb

He comes to give life to the dead
He comes to redeem the fall of man
This child is the light of day
He is the very lamb Saint John
prophesied

Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb

A thousand singing herons
I saw passing
Flying overhead, sounding
a thousand voices
Exhulting, "Glory be in the
heavens, and peace on earth
for Jesus has been born."

Riu, riu, chiu (nightingale's sounds)
The river bank protects it,
As God kept the wolf from our lamb.

Starwatcher162536
12-24-2010, 06:37 PM
Is Christmas a big holiday in Japan? ...and Merry Christmas.

rfrobison
12-24-2010, 08:56 PM
Is Christmas a big holiday in Japan? ...and Merry Christmas.

Depends what you mean by "big." Christians make up a very small percentage of the population here--between one and five percent, depending on whom you ask, though they have a degree of influence beyond their numbers in fields like education.

Christmas, particularly Christmas Eve, is kind of like Valentine's Day is in the West: a chance to have a romantic date, etc. Parents usually get presents for their kids, but most people don't really exchange gifts.

Sociologically (if I may use such a high-fallutin' description), the roles of Christmas and New Year's are more or less reversed in Japan and the West. Here, Christmas is mostly an excuse to have a party; New Year's is the time when people get together with their families and many troop off to their local shrine or temple to pray for good luck, though the whole process takes about 10 seconds: Toss some coins in the trough, clap your hands twice to summon the gods, bow your head, make your request and you're done.

To make a long story short, Christmas is an "event" here--lots of pretty lights and people dressed to the nines. It has much of the form of the traditional Christian holy day and none of the substance.

Come to think of it, it's not so different from Christmas at home. [RUEFUL SMILE]

rfrobison
12-24-2010, 09:03 PM
Merry Sol Invictus!
Should we commemorate Mithra also?

On this day, Skeptic, I will leave it to others to decide whom they should honor. I know to Whom my devotion will go...

Best to you,
R. ("The Un-Skeptic")

p.s. Thanks for the translation!

SkepticDoc
12-24-2010, 09:28 PM
Bah, humbug! :)

Even Pat feels we should celebrate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppGOor-73DY

Baltimoron
12-24-2010, 09:50 PM
Depends what you mean by "big." Christians make up a very small percentage of the population here--between one and five percent, depending on whom you ask, though they have a degree of influence beyond their numbers in fields like education.

Christmas, particularly Christmas Eve, is kind of like Valentine's Day is in the West: a chance to have a romantic date, etc. Parents usually get presents for their kids, but most people don't really exchange gifts.

Sociologically (if I may use such a high-fallutin' description), the roles of Christmas and New Year's are more or less reversed in Japan and the West. Here, Christmas is mostly an excuse to have a party; New Year's is the time when people get together with their families and many troop off to their local shrine or temple to pray for good luck, though the whole process takes about 10 seconds: Toss some coins in the trough, clap your hands twice to summon the gods, bow your head, make your request and you're done.

To make a long story short, Christmas is an "event" here--lots of pretty lights and people dressed to the nines. It has much of the form of the traditional Christian holy day and none of the substance.

Come to think of it, it's not so different from Christmas at home. [RUEFUL SMILE]

It's the same in Korea. It's another one of those ways Japanese customs have influenced Korean ones, but Koreans will never admit to it.

Merry Xmas to you and your family! Peace and Goodwill!

Baltimoron
12-24-2010, 10:29 PM
I have to pass along this Drezner tweet (http://twitter.com/#!/dandrezner/status/18483777407811586) that just came over the feed.

Dear kids: there is no Santa. Those presents are from your parents & relatives. We'll talk again come Easter! All the best, Wikileaks

Thank you, Dan!

SkepticDoc
12-24-2010, 11:32 PM
Hopefully, this will be something to celebrate this season: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/25/world/middleeast/25mideast.html?_r=2&src=twt&twt=nytimesworld

JonIrenicus
12-25-2010, 02:15 AM
In the words of Jim Carrey after pushback from aclu types attacking the word christmas:

MERRY CHRISTY CHRISTY CHRISTMAS

look
12-25-2010, 03:53 AM
Merry Christmas, Rob!

Mannish Boy
12-25-2010, 09:32 AM
Merry Christmas, everyone :)

SkepticDoc
12-25-2010, 12:23 PM
News from the frontlines:

http://www.clicker.com/tv/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/-War-on-Christmas-begins-anew-1240294/

or

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/40650504#40650504

SkepticDoc
12-25-2010, 08:47 PM
From my e-mails:

A Merry Christmas to All ...from Michael Moore

Saturday, December 25th, 2010

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas (or a Merry Everything) and hope you are all well today.

Here's a good thought from the writer William Rivers Pitt:

"Before Santa and presents and shopping and all the attendant Christmas (stuff) got involved, this holiday was enshrined to commemorate a guy who got nailed to a tree for daring to tell people to be kind to one another. If you have two cloaks, He said, give one away. Remember those who have less than you, be charitable, be good, be merciful."

Hear, hear.

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

Not4Navigation
12-26-2010, 09:08 AM
"Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." Corinthians (9:7)

Merry Christmas Everyone!