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JonIrenicus
12-02-2010, 01:23 PM
So I am browsing some headlines today and come across this

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/02/mullen-troops-balk-change-gay-service-policy-job/


a rare fox story about dadt, there was virtual silence on the issue compared to the massive attention paid by msnbc and cnn, but look at the article, and more importantly, look at the comments


LEGIONS of retarded social conservatives with abhorrent beliefs. Views I don't simply find wrong, but disgusting. Look at the bubble of opinion they are flooded in, it's enough to drive someone insane reading it. I fear the only solution for it is a macabre one, they need to die. And be replaced by a younger generation with SUPERIOR standards and attitudes, like the integration challenged elders of yore.

Starwatcher162536
12-02-2010, 01:30 PM
We all are what we were made to be.

bjkeefe
12-02-2010, 01:47 PM
So I am browsing some headlines today and come across this

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/02/mullen-troops-balk-change-gay-service-policy-job/

So, the first thing I say is hurrah for Mike Mullen.

a rare fox story about dadt, there was virtual silence on the issue compared to the massive attention paid by msnbc and cnn, but look at the article, and more importantly, look at the comments

Sheesh. 1151 of them. And 23 more posted in the time it took me to skim the first 10, which I will take as indicative of your point.

So, in answer to the question posed in your title, I would say two things. First, sure. Hate whomever you want. Second, my own preference is to hate the belief, not the believer.

LEGIONS of retarded social conservatives with abhorrent beliefs. Views I don't simply find wrong, but disgusting. Look at the bubble of opinion they are flooded in, it's enough to drive someone insane reading it. I fear the only solution for it is a macabre one, they need to die. And be replaced by a younger generation with SUPERIOR standards and attitudes, like the integration challenged elders of yore.

Probably some of these people will never change their views, and so yes, we will have no choice but to wait for them to die off. But it has been my experience, and there is survey data showing this as well, that at least some people can lose their homophobic attitudes. Pretty much all it takes is getting to know some gays and lesbians personally.

I am not sure if you are actually advocating killing people whose views you dislike. I hope not.

kezboard
12-02-2010, 03:18 PM
Yes, but there's nothing wrong with being really glad you don't know them.

look
12-02-2010, 03:33 PM
We all are what we were made to be.We are stardust.

look
12-02-2010, 03:33 PM
Yes, but there's nothing wrong with being really glad you don't know them.That's our kez...such a softie.

JonIrenicus
12-02-2010, 04:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_HtYB_Lzbg#t=6m45s

the comment comes around the 8 minute 10 s time where she asks whether it is ok to hate a certain type of person. I like her conclusion.

Ocean
12-02-2010, 06:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_HtYB_Lzbg#t=6m45s

the comment comes around the 8 minute 10 s time where she asks whether it is ok to hate a certain type of person. I like her conclusion.

Just remember that intense hatred may have little or no effect on the hated, but be very harmful to the hater.

Don Zeko
12-02-2010, 11:52 PM
I am not sure if you are actually advocating killing people whose views you dislike. I hope not.

I read Jon as making the much milder statement that we'll only make progress on this issue when people with such retrograde beliefs are no longer part of the body politic thanks to the inexorable creep of mortality, not as a suggestion to speed said process up.

BruceHughes
12-03-2010, 03:36 AM
No we should not hate them. We are free to choose what to believe. We can't blame them about what they believe because we have all different environment and culture since then....

JonIrenicus
12-04-2010, 04:22 AM
http://tv.gawker.com/5704920/jon-stewart-applauds-joe-lieberman-on-gay-rights-mocks-mccain-as-usual