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bjkeefe
11-02-2010, 08:30 PM
Since they're about to be in charge, they deserve a fresh thread, do they not? (Previous thread here (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?t=5284).)

Of course they do!

And what better way to start off than by noting that ... Andrew Not Too Breitbart got busted for lying again!

The following letter was sent from ABC and received by Mr. Breitbart:

Dear Mr. Breitbart,

We have spent the past several days trying to make clear to you your limited role as a participant in our digital town hall to be streamed on ABCNews.com and Facebook. The post on your blog last Friday created a widespread impression that you would be analyzing the election on ABC News. We made it as clear as possible as quickly as possible that you had been invited along with numerous others to participate in our digital town hall. Instead of clarifying your role, you posted a blog on Sunday evening in which you continued to claim a bigger role in our coverage. As we are still unable to agree on your role, we feel it best for you not to participate.

Sincerely,

Andrew Morse

(source (http://blogs.abcnews.com/pressroom/2010/11/abcs-letter-to-andrew-breitbart.html) | via (http://wonkette.com/428959/abc-news-not-going-to-feature-andrew-breitbarts-expert-poopleech-analysis))

BIASED LIBRUL MEDIA!!!1! howls coming in 5..., 4..., 3...

chiwhisoxx
11-02-2010, 11:56 PM
It'll be interesting to see if this thread produces anything in the way of actual news. Or even serious commentary. Or even good snark.

Or will it just be all links to angry moonbats yelling their opinions?

AemJeff
11-03-2010, 12:19 AM
It'll be interesting to see if this thread produces anything in the way of actual news. Or even serious commentary. Or even good snark.

Or will it just be all links to angry moonbats yelling their opinions?

I thought that first post was pretty good. Schadenfreude emanating from Breitbart caught in the act of self-immolation is pretty sweet, sublime even. Morse's fingerflick, with its understated authority, was a real cherry on top.

chiwhisoxx
11-03-2010, 12:23 AM
I thought that first post was pretty good. Schadenfreude emanating from Breitbart caught in the act of self-immolation is pretty sweet, sublime even. Morse's fingerflick, with its understated authority, was a real cherry on top.

It was a joke. It's a bit obscure to track, but when I started a similar thread for Democrats a few months ago, Brendan posted exactly what I posted, substituting "moonbat" for "wingnut". Bloggingheads forums inside baseball! I wouldn't be surprised if BJ remembered though, he seems to have a somewhat freakish memory when it comes to language.

AemJeff
11-03-2010, 12:24 AM
It was a joke. It's a bit obscure to track, but when I started a similar thread for Democrats a few months ago, Brendan posted exactly what I posted, substituting "moonbat" for "wingnut". Bloggingheads forums inside baseball! I wouldn't be surprised if BJ remembered though, he seems to have a somewhat freakish memory when it comes to language.

I definitely missed it. But the only freakish thing about my memory is its porousness.

bjkeefe
11-09-2010, 03:00 PM
"Then Debunked! But... Questions Remain!"

Roy Edroso latest wingnutosphere wrap-up is now available. Intro here (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#5658353502892207765), full column here (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/11/obamas_200_mill.php), bonus follow-up post here (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#1182613947460224112).

Semi-new B'head Daniel "Not Jonah (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=185649&highlight=clone#post185649)" Foster makes an appearance.

handle
11-09-2010, 03:29 PM
I definitely missed it. But the only freakish thing about my memory is its porousness.

I'm for sure stealing that one... next time I forget (unable to instantly recall) someones name:
I'm afraid my memory has become somewhat porous of late...

bjkeefe
11-09-2010, 07:19 PM
Jim Newell asks (http://gawker.com/5684665/is-the-tea-party-overstepping-its-mandate) "Is the Tea Party Overstepping Its Mandate?" and passes along a commenter's link to a story in The Arizona Republic (http://www.azcentral.com/community/scottsdale/articles/2010/11/07/20101107tea-party-trash-fountain-hills.html):

'Tea partyers' oppose changes to Fountain Hills trash collection

A Valley community's decision to change the way trash is picked up provided further proof of how deeply the nation's anti-government, "tea party"-fueled sentiment is running.

A decision by the Fountain Hills Town Council to hire a single trash hauler and begin a curbside recycling program has been met with angry protests from residents who accuse town leaders of overstepping their bounds and taking a leap toward socialism.

Some even likened it to "Obamacare" for garbage, calling it "trashcare."

An Arizona website affiliated with the Alexandria, Va.,-based Campaign for Liberty, azc4l.com (http://azc4l.com/), features an intimidating, cigar-chomping man standing in front of the town's famous fountain next to a story about the issue.

And last week, a flier was circulated around Fountain Hills with an ominous icon and the phrase, "The Hills Will Have Eyes," and that claimed the "Fountain Hills Green Police" checked residents' garbage and recyclables, and as a result, "you are wanted for questioning."

[...]

Fountain Hills is home to two tea-party groups - Fountain Hills Tea Party and Fountain Hills Tea Party Patriots.

[...]

Councilwoman Ginny Dickey, who also supported the measure, said she felt that her motivations were especially questioned because she is the only Democratic council member and worked for seven years at the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality.

"It seems counterintuitive, but in order for this proposal to pass, I believe I had to downplay the benefits of recycling," she said. "When ideology prevents rational discussion of a really pretty mundane topic, trash, there is no perspective. Everything is suspect, which paralyzes us."

I see no reason why these people aren't ready to run the country.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 02:10 AM
Think again: chemtrails!!!1! (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#2235060142579105933)

Bear in mind this is not nutpicking. These are among the top sites in the conservative blogosphere. Sure, they're not all saying "chemtrails" explicitly, but they don't need to, do they? They know what gives their readers a fear jolt -- just a hint or two does the trick. It's not like Beck and Palin are the only ones to have figured this out.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 02:14 AM
"When ideology prevents rational discussion of a really pretty mundane topic ..."

Another illustration (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#430277510674005018).

It‘s something of a stretch to compare a soccer game among eleven-year-old boys with the fate of the democratic world, but I’ve always managed to see big issues in small things.

Back in the days when our country was going good, guys like Barry Rubin were standing on milk crates, wearing tin foil hats.

Now they are paid employees of the RWNM.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 01:01 PM
... but impersonating another public figure for the purposes of doing an interview with a reporter seems inexcusable, even for this bow-tied twerp (http://wonkette.com/429822/tucker-carlson-likes-to-send-out-fake-e-mails-as-keith-olbermann).

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 05:41 PM
In South Carolina, Mark Sanford is now (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/11/mark_sanford_might_run_for_off.html?utm_source=fee dburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nymag%2Fintel+%28Daily+Intell igencer+-+New+York+Magazine%29) ...

... even more popular than moderate Republican senator Lindsey Graham.

Pro tip: Just keep invoking Jeebus. And never have anything to do with responsible governing, like admitting that global warming is real, or that federal stimulus money is good for your poor state.

(via (http://wonkette.com/429842/michelle-obama-cramps-americas-style-with-her-sharia-couture))

[Added] I kid you not (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/10/919187/-House-energy-chair-hopeful-Shimkus-cites-Gods-promise-to-Noah-to-debunk-global-warming?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29):

Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.), who will seek the Energy and Commerce Committee chairmanship (http://progressillinois.com/quick-hits/content/2010/11/04/global-warming-denier-shimkus-hoping-top-spot-energy-committee) maintains that we do not have to worry about climate change because God promised in the Bible not to destroy the world again after Noah’s flood.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 05:58 PM
And a second hurrah (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128663-incoming-gop-chief-of-staff-calls-pelosi-garbage)!

New GOP chief of staff calls Pelosi 'garbage'

Guess that's what happens when you hire as your chief of staff a former (conservative (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/128391-allen-west-taps-conservative-talk-host-as-chief-of-staff), of course) talk radio host.

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Sputtering response on how Rahm said "fuck" and "retard," in 5..., 4..., 3...

The only question: will it be from chiwhi, operative, Fluffy, <strike>'fur</strike> Lmaki, or that new kid, who only knows how to type thanks for playing!?

chiwhisoxx
11-10-2010, 06:19 PM
And a second hurrah (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128663-incoming-gop-chief-of-staff-calls-pelosi-garbage)!



Guess that's what happens when you hire as your chief of staff a former (conservative (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/128391-allen-west-taps-conservative-talk-host-as-chief-of-staff), of course) talk radio host.

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Sputtering response on how Rahm said "fuck" and "retard," in 5..., 4..., 3...

The only question: will it be from chiwhi, operative, Fluffy, <strike>'fur</strike> Lmaki, or that new kid, who only knows how to type thanks for playing!?

The great thing is, I don't need to respond! I don't feel compelled to spend 14 hours a day on the internet describing in exhaustive detail how people I don't like politically are the lowest forms of life on earth. You don't even get to talk about actual ideas, just about how Sarah Palin is the scourge of the living. In some ways I pity you, it really must be exhausting :)

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 06:26 PM
In South Carolina, Mark Sanford is now (http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/11/mark_sanford_might_run_for_off.html?utm_source=fee dburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nymag%2Fintel+%28Daily+Intell igencer+-+New+York+Magazine%29) ...



Pro tip: Just keep invoking Jeebus. And never have anything to do with responsible governing, like admitting that global warming is real, or that federal stimulus money is good for your poor state.

(via (http://wonkette.com/429842/michelle-obama-cramps-americas-style-with-her-sharia-couture))

[Added] I kid you not (http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/11/10/919187/-House-energy-chair-hopeful-Shimkus-cites-Gods-promise-to-Noah-to-debunk-global-warming?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29):

Why would anyone want to be identified with the Republican Party? How much would you have to hate yourself to want to be identified with the Republican Party?

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 06:30 PM
The great thing is, I don't need to respond! I don't feel compelled to spend 14 hours a day on the internet describing in exhaustive detail how people I don't like politically are the lowest forms of life on earth. You don't even get to talk about actual ideas, just about how Sarah Palin is the scourge of the living. In some ways I pity you, it really must be exhausting :)

I should take by the emoticon that you didn't mean any of what came before it?

Or that you don't really have the guts to stand behind the words you babble out?

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 06:31 PM
Guess that's what happens when you hire as your chief of staff a former (conservative (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/128391-allen-west-taps-conservative-talk-host-as-chief-of-staff), of course) talk radio host.

Hey, you omitted mention of the fact that this teabagging psychopath has been advocating murder of her political opponents -- like so many other Republicans have been doing in the past two years.

Here's what Kaufman said at a campaign event in July: "I don't care how this gets painted by the mainstream media. I don't care if this ends up on YouTube, because I am convinced that the most important thing the Founding Fathers did to ensure me my First Amendment rights was that they gave me a Second Amendment. And if ballots don't work, bullets will."
In the 2 years since I started following the psycho-mob that forms the activist base of the Republican Party, I have heard variations on this "we will kill you if we can't defeat you at the polls" from literally hundreds of individual teabaggers. It's one of the main themes of the Tea Party movement -- and they are dead serious.

We may not recognize it now, but the honest to god fact is that if the Republicans hadn't won a lot of elections this year, there would almost certainly have been a sharp rise in Republican terrorist attacks.

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 06:32 PM
The great thing is, I don't need to respond! I don't feel compelled to spend 14 hours a day on the internet describing in exhaustive detail how people I don't like politically are the lowest forms of life on earth. You don't even get to talk about actual ideas, just about how Sarah Palin is the scourge of the living. In some ways I pity you, it really must be exhausting :)

Well, to be fair, and honest, you do spend a lot of time here trolling Brendan.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 06:38 PM
Hey, you omitted mention of the fact that this teabagging psychopath has been advocating murder of her political opponents -- like so many other Republicans have been doing in the past two years.

I was going to amend the post to add her "ballots or bullets" line, but I saw chiwhi champing at the bit, ready to respond, so I figured I'd let it go.

Thanks for adding it on.

chiwhisoxx
11-10-2010, 06:42 PM
I should take by the emoticon that you didn't mean any of what came before it?

Or that you don't really have the guts to stand behind the words you babble out?

You spend a ridiculous amount of time here and with your blog, and 98% of your energy appears to go into attempting to mock conservatives/republicans. I stand by that. Why wouldn't I? Is it wrong?

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 06:44 PM
I was going to amend the post to add her "ballots or bullets" line, but I saw chiwhi champing at the bit, ready to respond, so I figured I'd let it go.
LOL!


Thanks for adding it on.
He seems to have assigned himself the role of following you around the forum. Some of the time he's nice, and other times he can be fairly nasty. He's seems rather fixated on you. But then, he's not the first conservative on this forum who can't stop thinking about you.

And by the way, just so you know, I really appreciate the posts you put up like this, with your characteristic wit and intelligence. I spend a lot of time laughing at the things you write.

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 06:47 PM
You spend a ridiculous amount of time here and with your blog, and 98% of your energy appears to go into attempting to mock conservatives/republicans. I stand by that. Why wouldn't I? Is it wrong?

Listen, chiwhi, if I were you, I would feel exactly the same way. When I was a kid, I used to hate Ron Guidry because every time my team played his team, he stuck out all our batters. You feel much the same about Brendan.

*Whiff!*

chiwhisoxx
11-10-2010, 06:55 PM
Listen, chiwhi, if I were you, I would feel exactly the same way. When I was a kid, I used to hate Ron Guidry because every time my team played his team, he stuck out all our batters. You feel much the same about Brendan.

*Whiff!*

But Ron Guidry accomplished that through quality, not quantity.

P.S. Relative to other great pitchers, Ron Guidry doesn't have a particularly impressive strike out rate.

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 07:05 PM
But Ron Guidry accomplished that through quality, not quantity.
The quality of Brendan's posts exceeds wildly anything you could accomplish.

Don't get me wrong, chiwhi: you're a nice guy. You occasionally put up an interesting post. But you're not in Brendan's league.


P.S. Relative to other great pitchers, Ron Guidry doesn't have a particularly impressive strike out rate.
No, but during the period in question, he was red hot, and he broke a lot of ten-year old Detroit Tiger fans' hearts.

In 1978, Guidry posted a career year, one of the best in the modern era. Against the California Angels on June 17, he struck out a Yankee-record 18 batters. Guidry's 18-strikeout performance is usually cited as the launching pad of the Yankee Stadium tradition of fans standing and clapping for a strikeout with two strikes on the opposing batter.

For the season, Guidry went 25-3, in a season that is among the top 10 in baseball history. He led the league with a sparkling 1.74 ERA, 25 wins, a .893 winning percentage, 9 shutouts, 248 strikeouts, and 6.15 hits allowed per 9 innings pitched. He held batters to a .193 batting average, .249 on base percentage, and .279 slugging percentage. He was even tougher with 2 outs and runners in scoring position (.152/.221/.253), and in the 9th inning of games (.119/.200/.136). Guidry's success during 1978 was due in large part to mastering the slider. He began throwing the pitch the year before, and was able to use the sharp-breaking slider to complement his great fastball throughout the season.

chiwhisoxx
11-10-2010, 07:06 PM
The quality of Brendan's posts exceeds wildly anything you could accomplish.

Don't get me wrong, chiwhi: you're a nice guy. You occasionally put up an interesting post. But you're not in Brendan's league.



No, but during the period in question, he was red hot, and he broke a lot of ten-year old Detroit Tiger fans' hearts.

Tempted to make an off colored joke about the bizarre level of fealty you're showing to a stranger on the internet, but I'm going to pass.

TwinSwords
11-10-2010, 07:08 PM
Tempted to make an off colored joke about the bizarre level of fealty you're showing to a stranger on the internet, but I'm going to pass.

You would be sadly mistaken if you thought I would give a shit about anything you say.

operative
11-10-2010, 07:15 PM
Why would anyone want to be identified with the Republican Party? How much would you have to hate yourself to want to be identified with the Republican Party?

Well if we want to focus on South Carolina, I really think you wouldn't want to associate yourself with Alvin Greene ;)

chiwhisoxx
11-10-2010, 07:16 PM
You would be sadly mistaken if you thought I would give a shit about anything you say.

I wish I could return the favor and call you a nice guy.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 07:17 PM
Tempted to make an off colored joke about the bizarre level of fealty you're showing to a stranger on the internet, but I'm going to pass.

For a moment, I wondered why it was beyond you to consider the possibility that Twin and I are something other than strangers to each other, but then I remembered (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=187479#post187479).

P.S. It's off color, not "off colored." And really, it should (http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A&q=off+color) be hyphenated: off-color.

No, no. Don't thank me. I'm here to help.

bjkeefe
11-10-2010, 08:48 PM
"When ideology prevents rational discussion of a really pretty mundane topic ..."

Another illustration (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#430277510674005018).

And another, starting with occasional B'head Jon Chait (http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/79036/why-the-gop-lost-academia) ("Why The GOP Lost Academia") ...

I know it sounds blunt to say that Republicans have lost ground among young, well-educated voters because their platform makes no sense. But I think it's basically true. A really committed conservative ideologue can overlook that kind of incoherence, but it's going to repel someone who lacks any strong ideological or partisan attachment.

... who refers us to a three (http://www.frumforum.com/smart-youth-voters-shunned-gop-in-midterms)-part (http://www.frumforum.com/why-americas-top-students-are-tuning-out-the-gop) piece (http://www.frumforum.com/why-the-gop-needs-the-academic-elite) by Nils August Andresen.

An excerpt from Part 1 ("Smart Youth Voters Shunned GOP in Midterms"):

A few days before the election I encountered in FrumForum an exchange between Anne Applebaum and Jonah Goldberg.

Applebaum reacted to Christine O’Donnell’s advertised boast – “I didn’t go to Yale” – that Republicans “need to stop celebrating stupidity”. Goldberg’s response was, basically, that Republicans do not dislike elitism if it means academic excellence and hard work, but only the political program of leftist elites. Even on its own terms, Goldberg’s response addressed only one half of the problem. For the question is not only whether Republicans dislike academic excellence and hard work; it is also whether intelligent people who study hard dislike Republicans.

And from Part 2 ("Why America’s Top Students Tune Out the GOP"):

Overall, the picture that emerges is alarming for Republicans and conservatives. In good universities across the nation, students flee the Republican Party. And the better the universities, it seems, the more drastic the trend.

To simplify: Republicans have gone from having a clear advantage among top students in the decade following the Eisenhower administration, to being competitive under the Nixon and Ford administrations, and from being an energetic minority during Reagan and Bush Sr. to being almost eradicated today.

So if we accept that the trend is drastic, that it is real and applies to most of the top universities – and I think that is reasonable – the next question is: How did this come about?

Some on the right see in these numbers a brainwashing effort from “liberal elites” on Ivy League institutions, rather than a brain drain from the Republican Party. People like David Horowitz try to gather evidence of how liberals conspire against conservative professors and students. To me, these accusations seem not only often to lack any real evidence, but also to lack substantial explanatory power, even when correct. Even conservative professors find themselves surrounded by students who vote for the Democrats. Furthermore, while students have fled the Republican Party, they do not seem to have moved very far to the left. The Weathermen are long gone. Hippies, utopian Marxists, socialists, anarchists – groups that were prominent in the 1960s and 1970s – are marginal today. Rather, today’s best students identify as slightly to the left of center, policy-wise liberals who massively prefer the Democratic party.

If not brainwashing, then what? Partly, it has to do with a change in the youth vote overall – however, that is hardly much of a comfort to Republicans, but rather a source of additional worry, since it bodes ill for Republicans over the coming decades. This change, in turn, has to do with cultural changes relating to gender, sexuality and the role of religion in public debate.

Partly it has to do with the inclusion of new groups in top education institutions, first Blacks and Hispanics, followed by Asians over the last few decades. However, in the case of Asian students it could be argued that Asians trend towards the Democrats precisely because they have higher quality education.

Let me advance another hypothesis. Today’s top students are motivated less by enthusiasm for Democrats and much more by revulsion from Republicans. It’s not the students who have changed so much. It’s the Republicans.

And from Part 3 ("Why the GOP Needs the Academic Elite"):

I believe future Republican administrations would also try to draw on such talent to formulate policy. However, the well is drying up. So few of the experts in any given field will in the future be Republican. That is an enormous problem. The intellectual resources directed at finding conservative answers to today’s problems are weakened year by year. If not quite critical yet, thanks to the efforts of an older generation of Republicans, the ramifications of this trend might be dramatic.

Finally, there is a question of identity: If the conservative movement – for whatever reasons – is unable to comprise those who seek knowledge, to improve their own situation and that of their community, what kind of movement is it? Of course, I do not mean to belittle the efforts of small-business owners across the country, or any other group that works hard and contributes to their communities. However, it seems to me that a movement whose ideology flows from personal responsibility, moderation, and a respect for accumulated wisdom, losing this demographic so drastically cannot be a good sign.

Predictably, many Republicans who observe these trends will blame the academics: Leftists, who like to boss people around, who don’t connect with “real” people’s concerns. However, Republicans also like to argue that people are not stupid, and that Democrats should stop talking down to them. That is a fair point. People’s concerns are a reality, and politicians should to the best of their ability try to understand what is reasonable about them. However, Republicans pretend that there is one group that really is stupid, one group that just “doesn’t get it”: Ivy League students.

At least for me, that this one particular group should “get” the country’s problems so much less than everyone else, goes against, well, common sense. And in the end, therefore, the problem in this story might not reside in Tompkins County. The better question might be what is wrong with the Republican Party.

bjkeefe
11-11-2010, 09:36 PM
I was going to amend the post to add her "ballots or bullets" line, but ...

HAHAHAHAHAHA! (http://wonkette.com/429975/allen-west-drops-his-crazy-radio-host-insurrectionist-chief-of-staff)

No One Could Have Predicted™ ... that she'd resort to the L-word.

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[Added] I didn't know this (http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2010/11/09/allen-west-not-disappointing.aspx):

Another detail that demonstrates just how much a product of the new, mad-as-hell conservative media West is: "Over the past four years, West is believed to have been on Kaufman’s show more than 100 times."

bjkeefe
11-13-2010, 03:43 AM
George Bush Book 'Decision Points' Lifted From Advisers' Books

When Crown Publishing inked a deal with George W. Bush for his memoirs, the publisher knew it wasn't getting Faulkner. But the book, at least, promises "gripping, never-before-heard detail" about the former president's key decisions, offering to bring readers "aboard Air Force One on 9/11, in the hours after America's most devastating attack since Pearl Harbor; at the head of the table in the Situation Room in the moments before launching the war in Iraq," and other undisclosed and weighty locations.

Crown also got a mash-up of worn-out anecdotes from previously published memoirs written by his subordinates, from which Bush lifts quotes word for word, passing them off as his own recollections. He took equal license in lifting from nonfiction books about his presidency or newspaper or magazine articles from the time. Far from shedding light on how the president approached the crucial "decision points" of his presidency, the clip jobs illuminate something shallower and less surprising about Bush's character: He's too lazy to write his own memoir.

Bush, on his book tour, makes much of the fact that he largely wrote the book himself, guffawing that critics who suspected he didn't know how to read are now getting a comeuppance. Not only does Bush know how to read, it turns out, he knows how to Google, too. Or his assistant does. Bush notes in his acknowledgments that "[m]uch of the research for this book was conducted by the brilliant and tireless Peter Rough. Peter spent the past 18 months digging through archives, searching the internet[s], and sifting through reams of paper." Bush also collaborated on the book with his former speechwriter, Christopher Michel.

Many of Bush's literary misdemeanors exemplify pedestrian sloth, but others are higher crimes against the craft of memoir. In one prime instance, Bush relates a poignant meeting between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a Tajik warlord on Karzai's Inauguration Day. It's the kind of scene that offers a glimpse of a hopeful future for the beleaguered nation. Witnessing such an exchange could color a president's outlook, could explain perhaps Bush's more optimistic outlook and give insight into his future decisions. Except Bush didn't witness it. Because he wasn't at Karzai's inauguration.

His absence doesn't stop Bush from relating this anecdote:

The rest (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/george-bush-book-decision-points_n_782731.html).

(h/t: Alex Pareene (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/bush_plagiarism/index.html))

chiwhisoxx
11-13-2010, 04:45 PM
The rest (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/george-bush-book-decision-points_n_782731.html).

(h/t: Alex Pareene (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/12/bush_plagiarism/index.html))

What a dunce! He doesn't remember every detail of 8 years. He must have dementia or something.

AemJeff
11-13-2010, 05:00 PM
What a dunce! He doesn't remember every detail of 8 years. He must have dementia or something.

Imagining a meeting with the Afghan leader that never occurred? Is that an example of the sort of trivial background detail you're implying had been described in the passage in question? This is a book about "decision points," right? About the events he claims were the most important and which had significant downstream effects? I think the larger point is that there's good reason to assert that Bush's memoir hasn't turned out to be an impressive piece of work.

bjkeefe
11-13-2010, 05:20 PM
Imagining a meeting with the Afghan leader that never occurred? Is that an example of the sort of trivial background detail you're implying had been described in the passage in question? This is a book about "decision points," right? About the events he claims were the most important and which had significant downstream effects? I think the larger point is that there's good reason to assert that Bush's memoir hasn't turned out to be an impressive piece of work.

Good answer. And copying and pasting long passages from others without attribution is also inexcusable, whining about less than perfect memory notwithstanding.

bjkeefe
11-14-2010, 03:20 AM
Sometimes I think Roy Edroso (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#5737761655470479366) lurks here (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abloggingheads.tv+obama+narcissist) . But then I realize it's more that some people on these forums spend too much time reading the Weekly Standard.

chiwhisoxx
11-14-2010, 03:43 AM
Sometimes I think Roy Edroso (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#5737761655470479366) lurks here (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abloggingheads.tv+obama+narcissist) . But then I realize it's more that some people on these forums spend too much time reading the Weekly Standard.

Jon Last has one of the best blogs on the intarwebs!

kezboard
11-14-2010, 10:17 AM
I think this analysis might be correct with regards to the "academic elite" -- meaning people actually employed in academia -- but with regard to students, it seems to me that it's much simpler to say that students are massively Democratic because they're largely young people, and young people lean Democratic because, well, they probably started paying attention to politics during a time when the Republicans were seriously messing things up. There haven't been a lot of Inspiring Conservative Moments that people in my generation remember. This isn't true, for instance, for the generation directly before mine, who can remember Reagan and could think of something like the fall of communism as an Inspiring Conservative Moment.

I don't want to go into Lambchop territory, so I'll just speak for myself -- the Iraq war was basically the formative political experience of my life, and it's left me with both an impression of the Republicans as a basically unhinged, insane party that messes up everything they touch, and the Democrats as basically spineless, too busy cowering and pandering to do anything constructive to stop them. I would say this sort of generational outlook on American politics explains a lot about the dynamic between the netroots and the Democratic establishment as well.

bjkeefe
11-14-2010, 03:32 PM
I think this analysis might be correct with regards to the "academic elite" -- meaning people actually employed in academia -- but with regard to students, it seems to me that it's much simpler to say that students are massively Democratic because they're largely young people, and young people lean Democratic because, well, they probably started paying attention to politics during a time when the Republicans were seriously messing things up. There haven't been a lot of Inspiring Conservative Moments that people in my generation remember. This isn't true, for instance, for the generation directly before mine, who can remember Reagan and could think of something like the fall of communism as an Inspiring Conservative Moment.

I don't want to go into Lambchop territory, so I'll just speak for myself -- the Iraq war was basically the formative political experience of my life, and it's left me with both an impression of the Republicans as a basically unhinged, insane party that messes up everything they touch, and the Democrats as basically spineless, too busy cowering and pandering to do anything constructive to stop them. I would say this sort of generational outlook on American politics explains a lot about the dynamic between the netroots and the Democratic establishment as well.

Hard to argue with any of that.

bjkeefe
11-14-2010, 10:27 PM
http://static1.firedoglake.com/29/files/2010/11/Screen-shot-2010-11-11-at-6.07.45-PM2.png (http://is.gd/h5NFz)

Thanks to TBogg for the screen shot. I wanted to get one of my own, but I keep getting Starbursts Lowry's picture every time I visit America's Shittiest Website™ (http://www.google.com/search?q=america%27s+shittiest+website).

Anyway, TBogg has pre-cruise news you can use (http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2010/11/14/take-the-money-and-run/)! Plus, he wins the Internet for naming their ship.

Also? This (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/252867/i-love-our-readers-kathryn-jean-lopez#comment-15222), posted under one of K-Lo's four-hundredy-'leven bleg posts, passed along by my favorite Belgian (http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/33829.html):

I don't understand why you're doing a pledge drive. I thought begging for money was NPR's domain. Why aren't you just charging a membership fee and going with a pay wall? Surely in the marketplace, the ideas expressed here would stand on their own? right?

All together now ...

Oh, snap!

chiwhisoxx
11-14-2010, 10:51 PM
http://static1.firedoglake.com/29/files/2010/11/Screen-shot-2010-11-11-at-6.07.45-PM2.png (http://is.gd/h5NFz)

Thanks to TBogg for the screen shot. I wanted to get one of my own, but I keep getting Starbursts Lowry's picture every time I visit America's Shittiest Website™ (http://www.google.com/search?q=america%27s+shittiest+website).

Anyway, TBogg has pre-cruise news you can use (http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2010/11/14/take-the-money-and-run/)! Plus, he wins the Internet for naming their ship.

Also? This (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/252867/i-love-our-readers-kathryn-jean-lopez#comment-15222), posted under one of K-Lo's four-hundredy-'leven bleg posts, passed along by my favorite Belgian (http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/33829.html):



All together now ...

Oh, snap!

You should be really upset if NRO is coming up when people search "America's Shittiest Website". Your blog has a serious copyright infringement case to be made.

P.S. Saying oh snap in italics and using an exclamation point makes you sound like a 54 year old man trying to be hip

AemJeff
11-14-2010, 11:10 PM
You should be really upset if NRO is coming up when people search "America's Shittiest Website". Your blog has a serious copyright infringement case to be made.

P.S. Saying oh snap in italics and using an exclamation point makes you sound like a 54 year old man trying to be hip

I think it's fair to say that the "Oh snap!" trope is a legitimate internet tradition.

e.g. (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS287&q=%22Oh+snap!%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=daTgTO_SIsL6lwewjv3KAw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CDUQsAQwAQ&biw=1229&bih=506)

bjkeefe
11-14-2010, 11:14 PM
I think it's fair to say that the "Oh snap!" trope is a legitimate internet tradition.

e.g. (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS287&q=%22Oh+snap!%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=daTgTO_SIsL6lwewjv3KAw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&ved=0CDUQsAQwAQ&biw=1229&bih=506)

Not to mention a Bhtv tradition (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abloggingheads.tv&q=oh+snap) in its own right, going back years before being enshrined (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=148462#post148462).

kezboard
11-15-2010, 12:53 AM
You should be really upset if NRO is coming up when people search "America's Shittiest Website". Your blog has a serious copyright infringement case to be made.

OH SNAP!
That was pretty good actually.

bjkeefe
11-15-2010, 02:03 AM
After finishing Zombie Economics (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Zombie-Economics-by-John-Quiggin/123348251033799), and confident that it would soar to the top of the best-seller lists, I had the idea of a franchise-style list of sequels – Vampire Econ (on the financial sector), Cyborg Econ (the market and the mixed economy) and so on. Now, though, I’m thinking I could spend a lifetime on the zombie ideas that dominate the political right.

One of the most tenacious has been the DDT myth ...

Hard to believe, but then I guess that's why we call them zombies.*

John Quiggin's post is well worth a read (http://crookedtimber.org/2010/11/07/yet-more-zombies/), as are comments #6, #7, and #15.

==========

* And yes, sadly, there have been sightings (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abloggingheads.tv&q=ddt) on this site from time to time.

bjkeefe
11-16-2010, 01:53 AM
Sometimes I think Roy Edroso (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_07_archive.html#5737761655470479366) lurks here (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Abloggingheads.tv+obama+narcissist) . But then I realize it's more that some people on these forums spend too much time reading the Weekly Standard.

Oh, hey, looks like this armchair analamysis thing is a growth industry! Even renowned historians (http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/2008/10/need-quick-pix-me-up.html) are turning to it! (In Greater Wingnuttia, at least.)

Roy Edroso's latest round-up is now available: "After the Shellacking, the Return of the "Arrogant Obama" Meme." Intro here (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_14_archive.html#6077995147357429256), full column here (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/11/after_the_shell.php).

chiwhisoxx
11-16-2010, 02:08 AM
Oh, hey, looks like this armchair analamysis thing is a growth industry! Even renowned historians (http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/2008/10/need-quick-pix-me-up.html) are turning to it! (In Greater Wingnuttia, at least.)

Roy Edroso's latest round-up is now available: "After the Shellacking, the Return of the "Arrogant Obama" Meme." Intro here (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_11_14_archive.html#6077995147357429256), full column here (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/11/after_the_shell.php).

Last posted this on his blog after linking to his piece, Allahpundit style:

Exit question: The piece came out online Saturday morning. What’s the over-under on the “uppity” charge? Tuesday?

Glad to see Roy Edroso (whoever that is?) has obliged so quickly.

bjkeefe
11-16-2010, 06:07 PM
It's not a dog-whistle. It's a foghorn (http://wonkette.com/430328/cool-rush-limbaugh-photoshop-reminds-you-obama-is-a-black-gang-member).

bjkeefe
11-17-2010, 02:08 AM
Fox Nation has taken to referring to the rePubOLITICO as "left-wing." See No More Mister Nice Blog (http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2010/11/palins-first-debate-boycott-ive-been.html) for the hilarity.

(h/t: Betty Cracker (http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/moth-nance-ra_vs_god-wa-silla/), who also chronicles the sad tale of Peggy Noonan, forced into choosing one saint over another.)

bjkeefe
11-18-2010, 03:11 AM
It's the maverick way -- spend a year studying whether soldiers deserve full civil rights, and a half an hour deciding who will be your presidential running mate.

-- Jon Stewart, as quoted by TPM (http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/jon-stewart-mccain-spends-a-year-on-dadt-repeal-half-an-hour-on-running-mate-video.php).

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6789/mccaingrimacecrop.gif

Five-minute clip at the link, which is good from end to end. (Include new Daily Show PSA!)

(h/t: Snaps Collector (http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2010/11/17/oh-snaps/))

bjkeefe
11-23-2010, 05:16 PM
B'head Adam Serwer (http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=why_we_are_angry_at_the_tsa) (via (http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2010/11/civil-liberties-for-me)):

The Transportation Security Agency's new airport passenger-screening procedures, which force airline passengers to submit to a full-body scan or an invasive frisk, is turning Dick Cheney’s biggest fans into latter-day Ben Franklins.

The conservative, torture-friendly Washington Times, declared that "a balance must be struck between reasonable security measures and the maintenance of a free society." Abu Ghraib was a fraternity prank, but getting frisked at the airport is a sign of, to quote the Times, "Big Sister's police state." Hatred of the TSA makes for strange bedfellows, with some conservatives now sounding like card-carrying members of the American Civil Liberties Union.

[...]

But conservatives bear a lot of blame for their current predicament. This comprehensive assault on individual freedom didn't occur in a vacuum; it occurred because conservatives were successful in frightening Americans into choosing security over liberty every time the choice was before them, and because America's elected officials take being blamed for a terrorist attack more seriously than their oath to protect the Constitution. [...]

[...]

As the holidays approach, conservatives livid over the new procedures might take a moment during the humiliating inconvenience of a virtual strip search or TSA grope session to think about what indefinite detention in an island prison or a week of forced sleep deprivation feels like. The peril of provoking mass panic every time an incompetent terrorist lights himself on fire might become more apparent.

operative
11-23-2010, 09:53 PM
B'head Adam Serwer (http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=why_we_are_angry_at_the_tsa) (via (http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2010/11/civil-liberties-for-me)):

Yeah, we ought to sympathize with terrorists. Totally. Adam totally hits the nail on the head.

bjkeefe
11-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Yeah, we ought to sympathize with terrorists. Totally. Adam totally hits the nail on the head.

With every post you put up, you give me less reason to bother to engage with you.

It's not possible for me to imagine how anyone could have so willfully misread that post to have come to that conclusion.

You're typing without thinking once again, just babbling out your Fox-style talking points and canned responses. See a key word? Turn to the appropriate page in the book. Copy, paste, repeat.

operative
11-23-2010, 10:42 PM
With every post you put up, you give me less reason to bother to engage with you.

It's not possible for me to imagine how anyone could have so willfully misread that post to have come to that conclusion.

You're typing without thinking once again, just babbling out your Fox-style talking points and canned responses. See a key word? Turn to the appropriate page in the book. Copy, paste, repeat.

Adam was either too lazy or too intentionally dishonest to note that the folks who are interrogated are suspected (and in most cases, actual) terrorists, unlike the 6 year olds who were being fondled by TSA agents. That to me warrants nothing but condemnation of his post.

bjkeefe
11-23-2010, 10:44 PM
[...]

Idiocy ignored.

operative
11-23-2010, 10:51 PM
Idiocy ignored.

You're failing my test. (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=189643#post189643)

chiwhisoxx
11-24-2010, 02:19 AM
Idiocy ignored.

Well, clearly not, since you bothered to respond.

bjkeefe
11-24-2010, 11:55 AM
Well, clearly not, since you bothered to respond.

I'm unsurprised you counted that as a response, given what makes up the bulk of your posts on this site.

bjkeefe
12-04-2010, 04:51 AM
Pareene (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/rush_limbaugh/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/12/03/republican_pundits):

Republican opinion outfit ConservativeHome polled 1,152 Republican activists (according to "YouGuv America") on their favorite conservative pundits (http://conhomeusa.typepad.com/survey/2010/12/the-republican-grassroots-ten-favorite-pundits.html). The results: mostly unsurprising. Rush Limbaugh is No. 1 and Glenn Beck is No. 2. Republican activists love being angry and scared, and getting lied to.

The only newspaper columnists Republican activists actually like are George Will, at No. 10, and human smarm machine Charles Krauthammer, all the way at No. 3, thanks in large part (I assume) to his frequent appearances on Fox and the fact that he has a professional wrestling stage name. (There is also Ann Coulter at No. 9, but she's more of a mascot than a columnist.)

The winners, in order:

Rush Limbaugh: 41 percent
Glenn Beck: 33 percent
Charles Krauthammer: 29 percent
Bill O'Reilly: 24 percent
Sean Hannity: 21 percent
Newt Gingrich: 16 percent
Michelle Malkin: 16 percent
Mike Huckabee: 13 percent
Ann Coulter: 13 percent
George Will: 13 percent

[...]

And what are the GOP's favorite pundits up to, lately? Rush is dialing up the racial rhetoric (http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201011240022) and attacking American Indians. Glenn Beck is still flagrantly ripping off his worshipful followers (http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012030014). Krauthammer would like us to act a bit more like the KGB and assassinate Julian Assange. (http://nationalinterest.org/blog/defense/wikileaks-the-neocons-4514) Bill O'Reilly is attacking Andy Griffith. (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-takes-on-andy-griffith-obamacare-ad/) Ann Coulter just wrote an astoundingly homophobic column. (http://townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2010/12/01/bradley_manning_poster_boy_for_dont_ask,_dont_tell/page/full/)

So, these are the people we're dealing with.

From the original source (http://conhomeusa.typepad.com/survey/2010/12/the-republican-grassroots-ten-favorite-pundits.html), more observations:

* The list reveals the massive gap between broadcast pundits and newspaper commentators.
* Limbaugh, for example, was named as a favorite by 41% of ConservativeHome's Republican Panel.
* Worryingly, columnists often regarded as among the most thoughtful conservatives did not fare well. David Brooks of the New York Times only mustered a mention from 1.3% of the panel (14 people). Ross Douthat, also at the NYT, won just four votes and Mike Gerson, Washington Post writer and former speechwriter to President Bush, gets just three mentions.
* Another former Bush speechwriter and Rush Limbaugh's leading critic, David Frum, only gets three mentions. Peggy Noonan, however, gets favorited 35 times.
* The ticket to high status is clearly Fox News. One of only two upmarket newspaper columnist to appear in the top ten being Charles Krauthammer, who combines his syndicated Washington Post column with his Fox punditry. He was named by 29% of grassroots Republicans. The other broadsheet columnist, at number ten, is George Will, syndicated Washington Post Op-Ed writer and ABC News veteran.

In other news, the forecast for today calls for periods of light, with increasing darkness expected in the evening.

operative
12-04-2010, 09:05 AM
Pareene (http://www.salon.com/news/politics/rush_limbaugh/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2010/12/03/republican_pundits):



From the original source (http://conhomeusa.typepad.com/survey/2010/12/the-republican-grassroots-ten-favorite-pundits.html), more observations:



In other news, the forecast for today calls for periods of light, with increasing darkness expected in the evening.

lol 'worringly.'

Shorter article:

Worryingly, liberal pseudo Republicans (David Brooks, David Frum) who spend a disproportionate amount of time attacking Republicans or defending Democrats don't receive much love

What a pathetic analysis they offer.

bjkeefe
12-05-2010, 02:18 AM
http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/rick-perry-rnc-small.jpg (http://wonkette.com/415637/rick-perry-is-so-fed-up-hes-writing-a-bible-about-it)


And it gets reviewed (http://www.texasobserver.org/purpletexas/one-corporatocracy-under-god-divisible)!

One Corporatocracy under God, Divisible

[...]

Suffice it to say, Fed Up! is not exactly a Lockean work of political philosophy. It’s not even Reaganesque. Perry’s book is a cut-and-paste compendium of counter-factual Tea Party bromides, Glenn Beck chalkboard-isms, grossly distorted founder-fetish history and Chamber of Commerce sloganeering. Anyone hoping to get a glimpse of the governor’s famously elusive character will be sorely disappointed; there are just a few scattered personal references and zero evidence of original thought. This book could have been credited to Sarah Palin, Rand Paul or Glenn Beck, and nobody would have known the difference.

On a related note, when the HoustonPress blogger Craig Malisow (http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/05/rick_perry_book.php) heard about this book earlier this year, he asked, "Shouldn't There Be An Apostrophe Between The F & E?"

Bonus! Foreword by the disgraced former Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich! Approvingly blurbed by Rush Limbaugh!

Get 'em while they're hot! Currently #3 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Fed-Up-Fight-America-Washington/dp/0316132950/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291528898&sr=1-1) "in Books > Nonfiction > Politics > Ideologies."

Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought

* Decision Points by George W. Bush

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bjkeefe
12-14-2010, 02:45 AM
Get your War On Christmas wrap-up before it's too late!

Intro here (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2010_12_12_archive.html#2728137104527543499), full column here (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2010/12/the_2010_rightb.php).

Wingnut unintentional hilarity of the month, from the latter:

"The first battle in the War on Christmas has been won by Judeo-Christian culture."

Bonus at the intro link: The Liberal Clause: Socialism on a Sleigh (http://blogtown.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2010/11/03/read-the-tea-party-childrens-book-about-how-obama-stole-christmas-no-really).

http://www.portlandmercury.com/images/blogimages/2010/11/03/1288820081-img008.jpg

"My fellow citizens of the North Pole," he stated with a hint of arrogance in his voice, "I am here to pull Christmas back from the brink of destruction. My name is Barry, but you can call me Liberal Claus."

"Are you even from the North Pole?" an elf questioned from the crowd.

Liberal Claus scowled at this elf with pure evil in his eyes. For a moment all of the elves stood in disbelief waiting for a response, but the response would never come.

[Added] I know. Who can say (http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Clause-David-W-Hedrick/dp/0615406939) what the real title is supposed to be? The only love teabaggers have for the English language is the excuse to get mad when they here "Press 2 for Spanish."

[Added2] Shocker! Look who just made the American Family Association's Hate List (http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/12/13/et-tu-nascar/)! (Commenter Pavlov's Dog: FTW (http://www.balloon-juice.com/2010/12/13/et-tu-nascar/#comment-2282941).)

popcorn_karate
12-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah, we ought to sympathize with terrorists. Totally. Adam totally hits the nail on the head.

more stupid!
more dishonest!
and twice as pathetic as last weeks model!

the operative "wingnut" model 3.7 is the state of the art in head-in-the-sand duplicity with GOP-Talk wifi standard for instantaneous regurgitation of the most up to date talking points! and, as always, the comical lack of context and smug certainty are free.

order now!

chiwhisoxx
12-14-2010, 01:43 PM
more stupid!
more dishonest!
and twice as pathetic as last weeks model!

the operative "wingnut" model 3.7 is the state of the art in head-in-the-sand duplicity with GOP-Talk wifi standard for instantaneous regurgitation of the most up to date talking points! and, as always, the comical lack of context and smug certainty are free.

order now!

I'm on the fence right now, how about a holiday discount?

nikkibong
12-14-2010, 01:45 PM
how about a holiday discount?

war on christmas much?

bjkeefe
12-14-2010, 03:45 PM
[...]

Also: Happy Holidays, from Tom Tomorrow! (http://www.salon.com/entertainment/comics/this_modern_world/2010/12/14/this_modern_world)

http://www.salon.com/ent/comics/this_modern_world/2010/12/14/this_modern_world/story.jpg

bjkeefe
01-06-2011, 12:58 AM
If you've enjoyed some of the posts I've put up in these threads, you probably agree that among the best of them have been the easiest for me -- links to Roy Edroso's brilliant coverage.

So, if you're of like mind (http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2011/01/05/aint-to-proud-to-beg/), please, help a brother out (http://edrosothon.blogspot.com/).

Thanks.