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Ocean
09-19-2010, 03:21 PM
I hadn't read about this (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/5965073/Farmers-create-coloured-rice-murals-in-Japan.html) before. Perhaps we are a destructive species, but we do have a gift for aesthetics.

http://www.hemmy.net/images/arts/ricefieldart09.jpg

More images here (http://www.hemmy.net/2007/09/23/rice-field-art/).

nikkibong
09-19-2010, 06:34 PM
Thanks for that. I love Japan.

They got nice air there, too:

(photo, copyright nikkibong 2010)

Ocean
09-19-2010, 06:43 PM
Thanks for that. I love Japan.

They got nice air there, too:

(photo, copyright nikkibong 2010)

Hmmm... it's a bit over a dollar a minute. Something to think about if I was to travel to Japan. I'll ask my son. He went last year.

SkepticDoc
09-19-2010, 07:33 PM
I would love to have a discussion on Akira Kurosawa's films!

Any fans?

rfrobison
09-19-2010, 08:13 PM
Kinda puts the crop circles people to shame, doesn't it?

rfrobison
09-19-2010, 08:38 PM
Hmmm... it's a bit over a dollar a minute. Something to think about if I was to travel to Japan. I'll ask my son. He went last year.

Come on over! The wife and I will take you on a tour of Asakusa, where we live. It just so happens to be Tokyo's best-known temple district and a center of old Edo (the former name of the capital) culture.

Big fun!

rfrobison
09-19-2010, 08:40 PM
Hmmm... it's a bit over a dollar a minute. Something to think about if I was to travel to Japan. I'll ask my son. He went last year.

Not to worry, Ocean. Air on the street is free.

Ocean
09-19-2010, 10:19 PM
Come on over! The wife and I will take you on a tour of Asakusa, where we live. It just so happens to be Tokyo's best-known temple district and a center of old Edo (the former name of the capital) culture.

Big fun!

Hey! Thanks for the offer. I have about ten other places on my list already, but it is certainly a country I look forward to visiting.

Ocean
09-19-2010, 10:20 PM
Not to worry, Ocean. Air on the street is free.

Thank you for letting me know. Phew! What a relief!

operative
09-20-2010, 12:34 PM
I would love to have a discussion on Akira Kurosawa's films!

Any fans?

I've seen many of them; it's interesting to see the progression, because after his propaganda days were over, he initially started out making some films that were very influenced by Hollywood--I love Stray Dog and, particularly, High and Low. I think that as his career progressed he became more 'Japanese' in his storytelling.

Off by hand, my top 5 Kurosawa films are:
1) High and Low
2) The Hidden Fortress
3) The Seven Samurai
4) Stray Dog
5) Sanjuro

(I haven't seen Ikuri or Ran yet, and I currently have a copy of Drunken Angel at home).

Of course, Rashomon is, along with Seven Samurai, his most acclaimed film, and it is brilliant, but it doesn't quite make the cut in terms of my personal preference.

operative
09-20-2010, 12:35 PM
I just wish it was sunnier :(

stephanie
09-20-2010, 01:21 PM
(I haven't seen Ikuri or Ran yet, and I currently have a copy of Drunken Angel at home).

Ran and Throne of Blood are the only ones I've seen. As I liked them both quite a lot, I always think I should watch more -- especially Rashomon and Seven Samurai, just for general film literacy purposes. The number of well-known movies I've yet to see is ridiculous, though.

SkepticDoc
09-20-2010, 01:33 PM
Red Beard is also a good one, TCM showed over 20 on the hundredth anniversary of his birth.

nikkibong
09-20-2010, 01:44 PM
I just wish it was sunnier :(

both the climate and topography remind me a bit of the pacific northwest -- grey, rainy, mountainous. but, on the other hand, the moisture keeps things green!

look
09-20-2010, 02:40 PM
Ran and Throne of Blood are the only ones I've seen. As I liked them both quite a lot, I always think I should watch more -- especially Rashomon and Seven Samurai, just for general film literacy purposes. The number of well-known movies I've yet to see is ridiculous, though.Same here. I want to get Netflix.

operative
09-20-2010, 03:59 PM
Ran and Throne of Blood are the only ones I've seen. As I liked them both quite a lot, I always think I should watch more -- especially Rashomon and Seven Samurai, just for general film literacy purposes. The number of well-known movies I've yet to see is ridiculous, though.

Was it due to an interest in Shakespeare? I liked Throne of Blood, though it's not really one of his better known films, at least not one that I'd put in say the top 7 most known Kurosawa films. Mifune's finale is terrific though.

operative
09-20-2010, 03:59 PM
Red Beard is also a good one, TCM showed over 20 on the hundredth anniversary of his birth.

Red Beard is next on my list after Drunken Angel. I think the thing that has been keeping me from seeing it is how long it is.

SkepticDoc
09-20-2010, 04:02 PM
Harakiri and Tokyo Story are great non-Kurosawa films.

"I live in fear" is also very interesting.

operative
09-20-2010, 04:26 PM
Harakiri and Tokyo Story are great non-Kurosawa films.

"I live in fear" is also very interesting.

I haven't seen Harakiri yet, though I did see Kobayashi's Samurai Rebellion, which seems to have some similar themes. Samurai Rebellion is a good film.

Woman in the Dunes and The Face of Another are two great films from Hiroshi Teshigahara, though I never quite figured out the latter. Ugetsu is a classic, but I found Mizoguchi's Sansho the Bailiff to be even better.

I have yet to see Tokyo Story though I did recently see Late Spring. Ozu is a very meditative filmmaker. Great stuff, though I'm a sucker for genre work.

In terms of modern Japanese cinema, I'd highly recommend The Hidden Blade. And in the realm of non-Samurai films, Nobody Knows.

stephanie
09-20-2010, 04:26 PM
Was it due to an interest in Shakespeare?

Yes.

stephanie
09-20-2010, 04:29 PM
Same here. I want to get Netflix.

I've had it for a while, so can't even blame my Blockbuster going out of business. What has helped is the streaming option that Netflix now has -- there are tons of movies available that way that you can get immediately.

operative
09-20-2010, 04:42 PM
I've had it for a while, so can't even blame my Blockbuster going out of business. What has helped is the streaming option that Netflix now has -- there are tons of movies available that way that you can get immediately.

It's great, but I've had problems with it. I've yet to get Panic in the Streets to stream correctly, even after I notified Netflix about problems with it, and I had some issues with another movie recently.

look
09-20-2010, 05:43 PM
I've had it for a while, so can't even blame my Blockbuster going out of business. What has helped is the streaming option that Netflix now has -- there are tons of movies available that way that you can get immediately.Yes, I want to get the streaming. Seems like it would be easy as pie and highly accessible. I don't mind waiting for new movies to come on the list. I guess it would all be streaming if there was enough bandwidth(?)

operative
09-20-2010, 05:55 PM
Yes, I want to get the streaming. Seems like it would be easy as pie and highly accessible. I don't mind waiting for new movies to come on the list. I guess it would all be streaming if there was enough bandwidth(?)

Eventually it will be all streaming. And then the post office can finally die off.

Wonderment
09-20-2010, 06:24 PM
both the climate and topography remind me a bit of the pacific northwest -- grey, rainy, mountainous. but, on the other hand, the moisture keeps things green!

I'm sure you meant to keep that to 17 syllables.

Haiku by Nikkibong:

Like Pacific Northwest,
Grey, rainy, mountainous
But! Moisture keeps green

look
09-20-2010, 06:46 PM
I'm sure you meant to keep that to 17 syllables.

Haiku by Nikkibong:

Like Pacific Northwest,
Grey, rainy, mountainous
But! Moisture keeps green

I thought it was supposed to be 5-7-5?


Eventually
it will be all streaming then
Post office no more.

-operative

Wonderment
09-20-2010, 07:00 PM
I thought it was supposed to be 5-7-5?

Look,Lookie, Lookster,
Sun shines bright; Picked an orange
Don't be pedantic.

rfrobison
09-20-2010, 07:17 PM
You guys need counseling
He winked and nodded
--Rfr--

This is my two-line senryu, which is the Japanese equivalent of free verse.

look
09-20-2010, 07:35 PM
Look,Lookie, Lookster,
Sun shines bright; Picked an orange
Don't be pedantic.

Wonderment Wonder
Ment, thou dost sink my ego
Lower than whale shit.

SkepticDoc
09-20-2010, 07:57 PM
I don't know if it a cinematic myth, but "Hidden Fortress" supposedly inspired George Lucas to make "Star Wars".

"Departures" is available on Netflix.

My friend Baltimoron suggested a Korean film also available on Netflix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunhyang_%282000_film%29

I found the differences between Japanese and Korean films interesting.

On the cinematic line, "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" is also available on streaming.

AemJeff
09-20-2010, 08:36 PM
I've had it for a while, so can't even blame my Blockbuster going out of business. What has helped is the streaming option that Netflix now has -- there are tons of movies available that way that you can get immediately.

<Horror!> Netflix streaming has such abysmal quality. With compression artifacts, cropping, and distorted aspect ratios. I can watch 4:3 broadcast content, and some older movies that I've only ever seen on broadcast anyway that way. But watching Kurosawa (or Hitchcock, or Ford, or...) through that dirty lens...

stephanie
09-20-2010, 08:59 PM
<Horror!> Netflix streaming has such abysmal quality. With compression artifacts, cropping, and distorted aspect ratios. I can watch 4:3 broadcast content, and some older movies that I've only ever seen on broadcast anyway that way. But watching Kurosawa (or Hitchcock, or Ford, or...) through that dirty lens...

Worse than the DVD? I probably wouldn't notice, I just assume that the movie on the TV won't be optimal, but will make sure to go for the DVD if it makes a difference. (I am such a movie philistine it's crazy -- I've only just decided to try and see some movies in the theater again after several years of seeing probably 25 plays a year to 1-2 movies.)

I am lucky enough to live right near a theater that plays a lot of older stuff, and always think I should do a better job of paying attention -- I'm sure they've had Kurosawa. (They were doing pre-Code movies for the weekend matinee for a while, and played the original uncut Godzilla, for a couple of examples, as well as lots of Hitchcock and so on and recently the restored Lang Metropolis.)

AemJeff
09-20-2010, 09:18 PM
Worse than the DVD? I probably wouldn't notice, I just assume that the movie on the TV won't be optimal, but will make sure to go for the DVD if it makes a difference. (I am such a movie philistine it's crazy -- I've only just decided to try and see some movies in the theater again after several years of seeing probably 25 plays a year to 1-2 movies.)

I am lucky enough to live right near a theater that plays a lot of older stuff, and always think I should do a better job of paying attention -- I'm sure they've had Kurosawa. (They were doing pre-Code movies for the weekend matinee for a while, and played the original uncut Godzilla, for a couple of examples, as well as lots of Hitchcock and so on and recently the restored Lang Metropolis.)

Worse than VHS. You might notice. I'm a little obsessive and technophilic, so your mileage might vary. I found that my interested peaked (and was piqued) when I started reading collections of reviews (anything by Pauline Kael or Roger Ebert is a great place to start, IMHO.) Also, anything by Peter Bogdanovich (Who the Devil Made It (http://www.amazon.com/Who-Devil-Made-Conversations-Legendary/dp/0345404572/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1285028232&sr=1-3) is hard to find, but worth the effort) on the topic is accessible and informative.

look
09-20-2010, 09:22 PM
<Horror!> Netflix streaming has such abysmal quality. With compression artifacts, cropping, and distorted aspect ratios. I can watch 4:3 broadcast content, and some older movies that I've only ever seen on broadcast anyway that way. But watching Kurosawa (or Hitchcock, or Ford, or...) through that dirty lens...
Captain, I'm sensing some compression artifacts...

Steady as she goes, Mr. Spock, steady as she goes.

look
09-20-2010, 09:27 PM
I don't know if it a cinematic myth, but "Hidden Fortress" supposedly inspired George Lucas to make "Star Wars".

"Departures" is available on Netflix.

My friend Baltimoron suggested a Korean film also available on Netflix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunhyang_%282000_film%29

I found the differences between Japanese and Korean films interesting.

On the cinematic line, "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" is also available on streaming.

These two have been on my list for several years since I read reviews of them somewhere:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115005/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0215369/

SkepticDoc
09-20-2010, 09:44 PM
I have used a PS3 and my TiVo XL box through a wireless adapter and the image on my HDTV is very good, if not excellent. Depends on the films, I guess...

operative
09-20-2010, 09:45 PM
I don't know if it a cinematic myth, but "Hidden Fortress" supposedly inspired George Lucas to make "Star Wars".

It did; watch Hidden Fortress in then Star Wars, and you'll see the common points--for instance, the two characters designed more for comic relief and as cogs in the plot engine, the princess, etc.. I actually prefer Hidden Fortress.


My friend Baltimoron suggested a Korean film also available on Netflix:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chunhyang_%282000_film%29

I found the differences between Japanese and Korean films interesting.


I haven't seen near as many Korean films as Japanese films; one of the few that I really loved was Oldboy. 3 Iron is interesting in a high-concept way. Memories of Murder is pretty good. I wasn't wowed by The Host, but I did like A Tale of Two Sisters (far superior to the American remake). Tae Guk Gi is harrowing. Shiri is interesting from the angle of a Korean director making an American-style action movie. I haven't seen Chunhyang yet though.


On the cinematic line, "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" is also available on streaming.

Great movie, better than the sequel, and having read the third book, I can't imagine the movie turning out as good as the first one.

juminosy
09-20-2010, 11:03 PM
Great movie, better than the sequel, and having read the third book, I can't imagine the movie turning out as good as the first one.


Thanks for your helpful comment. I have nothing else to do this weekend so I would watch the movie :D



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AemJeff
09-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Captain, I'm sensing some compression artifacts...

Steady as she goes, Mr. Spock, steady as she goes.

Yeah, well, you should see my Blu-ray of ST:TOS Season One! Remeastered from the 35 millimeter film original with updated (and computer-generated) special effects - or you can watch it with the old scale-model graphics! Go ahead and sneer suckers!

And, seriously, I'm not talking about a subtle problem with the NetFlix streams. Some are ok (at best), but others look like third generation tape copies. It can be pretty awful. If you're watching movies notable for the sheer beauty of their cinematography, it's a terrible medium. A few years from now, when we all have 100gig fiber to our doors it'll look great, I'm sure.

Baltimoron
09-21-2010, 03:21 AM
Now, if they come with Korean subtitles, I'm all on it!

Does the Enterprise glide through space any smoother? Do the phaser bolts still look like phosphorescent cut-outs pasted into the sequence? Did they give the make-up an HD-TV make-over?

look
09-21-2010, 03:59 AM
Yeah, well, you should see my Blu-ray of ST:TOS Season One! Remeastered from the 35 millimeter film original with updated (and computer-generated) special effects - or you can watch it with the old scale-model graphics! Go ahead and sneer suckers!I'll bring the popcorn!And, seriously, I'm not talking about a subtle problem with the NetFlix streams. Some are ok (at best), but others look like third generation tape copies. It can be pretty awful. If you're watching movies notable for the sheer beauty of their cinematography, it's a terrible medium. A few years from now, when we all have 100gig fiber to our doors it'll look great, I'm sure.I was amazed how bad regular TV looked after I got used to HD, so thanks for the heads up.

SkepticDoc
09-21-2010, 07:48 AM
Thanks for the other suggestions, I also like the Netflix suggestions feature.

If one visits Rotten Tomatoes, there is a script that will put the movies you choose in your Netflix cue.