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Wonderment
07-06-2010, 10:36 PM
Dana Milbank in the WAPO. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/06/AR2010070604005.html?hpid=topnews)

Four months ago, the Obama administration made a politically perilous decision to condemn Israel over a controversial new settlement. The Israel lobby reared up, Netanyahu denounced the administration's actions, Republican leaders sided with Netanyahu, and Democrats ran for cover.

So on Tuesday, Obama, routed and humiliated by his Israeli counterpart, invited Netanyahu back to the White House for what might be called the Oil of Olay Summit: It was all about saving face.

The president, beaming in the Oval Office with a dour Netanyahu at his side, gushed about the "extraordinary friendship between our two countries." He performed the Full Monty of pro-Israel pandering: "The bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable" . . . "I commended Prime Minister Netanyahu" . . . "Our two countries are working cooperatively" . . . "unwavering in our commitment" . . . "our relationship has broadened" . . . "continuing to improve" . . . "We are committed to that special bond, and we are going to do what's required to back that up."

Wonderment
07-07-2010, 05:39 AM
Peter Beinart asks,
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-06/netanyahu-wastes-obamas-time-peter-beinart-on-israels-intransigence/)
"What kind of a schmuck does Netanyahu think Obama is?"

bjkeefe
07-07-2010, 05:54 AM
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/245/flashinglightdr4.gif Why are you wasting our time with this sideshow when Important Internet Web Site Insta-FootyPajamas (http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/07/05/did-huffington-post-crop-ap-photo-to-give-netanyahu-devil-horns/) has broken this Very Important Story?

Did Huffington Post crop AP photo to give Netanyahu devil horns?

[...]

Is this part of the ongoing and relentless campaign by news sites to subtly slant the news — in this case, to “demonize” (in a literal sense) Israel? Or was it just a sheer random accident?

Or did Huffington Post get the photo from a different source, already pre-cropped? If so, I’d like to see the original source, and investigate who did the cropping. Either way, somebody — either at Huffington Post or at AP (or possibly a different news syndicate) — cropped the photo at the precise point to make Netanyahu look like Satan.

Probably best for your sanity to start with Jack Stuef's report (http://wonkette.com/416484/huffington-post-makes-all-of-america-believe-israel-is-devil-by-cropping-photo).

bjkeefe
07-07-2010, 02:41 PM
... Obama stealthily instructs his stealth agents to stealthily disarm Bibi, FTW (http://wonkette.com/416508/416508).

(This proves he is Muslin.)

Wonderment
07-07-2010, 08:59 PM
Horns AND Glocks. Definitely way more interesting than diplomacy.

bjkeefe
07-10-2010, 04:09 AM
[...]

I should have known Hateway Pundit would be all over this one. And unlike our last breathless correspondent, he doesn't play the old form-your-post-title-making-hysterical-accusation-into-a-question game. Nope, he just plain asserts it.

Sadly, No has details (http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/32271.html). (Here the Hateway (http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/huffpo-crops-ap-photo-to-give-netanyahu-devil-horns/) link for reference, since theirs is broken.)

cognitive madisonian
07-10-2010, 06:01 PM
I reached the term "Israel lobby" and that was it; "Israel lobby" is the automatic giveaway that the author in question is a crypto-antisemite.

Obama is finally showing some sense in middle eastern relations, after his foolish "reach out to the Muslim world" bit failed miserably. He is an intellectual midget in the company of Netanyahu, though.

AemJeff
07-10-2010, 06:36 PM
I reached the term "Israel lobby" and that was it; "Israel lobby" is the automatic giveaway that the author in question is a crypto-antisemite.

Obama is finally showing some sense in middle eastern relations, after his foolish "reach out to the Muslim world" bit failed miserably. He is an intellectual midget in the company of Netanyahu, though.

What a dotty little post! I guess these folks (http://www.aipac.org/) are anti-Semites. The strangely aggressive second graf begs for all sorts of validation. Care to share yer bonefides there, Mr "Cognitive"?

cognitive madisonian
07-10-2010, 07:01 PM
What a dotty little post! I guess these folks (http://www.aipac.org/) are anti-Semites.


Let's not play games with the semantics of the usage of the term "Israel lobby."


The strangely aggressive second graph begs for all sorts of validation. Care to share yer bonefides there, Mr "Cognitive"?

I think it's more about Obama's bonefides than mine ;) Obama is a strikingly overrated intellect. The man has never demonstrated that he is anything remotely remarkable. He's a reasonably intelligent man who has long been savvy enough to exploit his unusual birth and early life to get ahead.

Netanyahu, conversely, advanced because of genuine intellect.

bjkeefe
07-10-2010, 07:57 PM
... "Israel lobby" is the automatic giveaway that the author in question is a crypto-antisemite.

One hour later:

Let's not play games with the semantics of the usage of the term "Israel lobby."

In between are snide remarks about?

Other people's intelligence.

Wonderment
07-10-2010, 08:08 PM
Netanyahu, conversely, advanced because of genuine intellect.

Netanyahu is third-generation Zionist political elite and a shining example of Israeli nepotism. His grandfather was a Zionist writer/activist, and his father was a senior aide to founding Zionist father and right-wing extremist, Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He also benefited greatly politically by exploiting the martyrdom of his brother Yonatan, a national folk hero, who died in the Entebbe operation of 1976.

cognitive madisonian
07-10-2010, 10:23 PM
Netanyahu is third-generation Zionist political elite and a shining example of Israeli nepotism. His grandfather was a Zionist writer/activist, and his father was a senior aide to founding Zionist father and right-wing extremist, Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He also benefited greatly politically by exploiting the martyrdom of his brother Yonatan, a national folk hero, who died in the Entebbe operation of 1976.

I was thinking more about his academic and pre-political career. Can we give some credit to nepotism for his political career? Sure. Though I would caution that nepotism is around everywhere (not that you're suggesting it's not), and compared to, say, India, Israel is pretty mild in the nepotism department.

cognitive madisonian
07-10-2010, 10:25 PM
One hour later:



In between are snide remarks about?

Other people's intelligence.

You are disregarding the clear semantic difference in the crypto-anti-semites' usage of "Israel Lobby."

See: Jeremiah Wright's boneheaded, racist criticisms of Israel. At one point he let the veneer slip and substituted the actual for the euphemism: "Them Jews ain't gonna let him talk to me." Of course later he clarified that he meant Zionists.

Wonderment
07-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Ok. That still leaves your outrageous comment that Obama is an "intellectual midget."

Of course, if someone accused you of being "crypto-racist" for a gratuitous slur about a black man's brains, I'm sure you'd go through the roof. "Crypto-anti-Semite" is fine by you, however.

cognitive madisonian
07-11-2010, 12:43 AM
Ok. That still leaves your outrageous comment that Obama is an "intellectual midget."

Relative to the general population, Obama is certainly not an intellectual midget. But in the realm of the truly accomplished and brilliant (this only represents a portion of governmental leadership), he truly is out of his depth. I know people like Obama--no, not high-ranking leaders. I'm talking about people who are able to give off the air of being much more intelligent than they actually are. People who learn a little about a lot of different subjects but know a lot about very little. They can hold dinner party conversations but you would not want them in positions of leadership.

We've had intellectually brilliant presidents--Adams, Jefferson, Madison, JQ Adams, Garfield, and Hoover all qualify. I think that JFK's intelligence has been greatly overestimated by left-leaning historians. Clinton, however, was certainly in the upper half of all presidents in terms of intellect.

But Obama is not. He's just a privileged kid who talks a good game and can charm people with his little bit of knowledge, good looks, and oratory.



Of course, if someone accused you of being "crypto-racist" for a gratuitous slur about a black man's brains, I'm sure you'd go through the roof. "Crypto-anti-Semite" is fine by you, however.

When someone's discourse is marked by paranoid references to the "Israel Lobby," I think it's entirely natural to conclude that they are, in fact, crypto-anti-semites. The paranoid rantings that we see from the respective extreme wings of the left and right are really the same old anti-semitism dressed up an language that inexplicably makes it acceptable in some polite circles. "Jews control US policy." Replace with "Zionists" and suddenly it's not antisemitic. "Jews are racists." Replace with Zionists, the same. You can go on and on. M&W's book is simply the Protocols of the Elders of Zion repackaged as a foreign policy screed.

TwinSwords
07-11-2010, 11:23 AM
When someone's discourse is marked by paranoid references to the "Israel Lobby," I think it's entirely natural to conclude that they are, in fact, crypto-anti-semites.

Even if they are Jewish, like Milbank.

Cog's mad post illustrates nicely the point we have reached in the US, where white, Christian teabaggers who never left Iowa or Oklahoma call actual Jews anti-Semitic if they don't show constant and total support for Israel.

TwinSwords
07-11-2010, 11:24 AM
What a dotty little post! I guess these folks (http://www.aipac.org/) are anti-Semites.

Play of the Week.

Wonderment
07-11-2010, 03:38 PM
Even if they are Jewish, like Milbank.

Even if they ARE the Jewish lobby, like AIPAC, which self-identifies as a Jewish-American pro-Israel lobby.

cognitive madisonian
07-11-2010, 08:35 PM
Even if they are Jewish, like Milbank.


So your premise is that it is impossible for someone of Jewish heritage to fall prey to anti-Jewish conspiracy theories? I'll ignore your subsequent splenetic nonsense.