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Ocean
02-27-2010, 03:57 PM
...the Pacific Ocean that is, get you family, your valuables, your laptop and start heading East. Just in case.

Another catastrophe (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/world/americas/28chile.html?em). Hopefully the loss of lives won't be that high.

Who needs wars? Nature is enough.

AemJeff
02-27-2010, 04:00 PM
...the Pacific Ocean that is, get you family, your valuables, your laptop and start heading East. Just in case.

Another catastrophe (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/world/americas/28chile.html?em). Hopefully the loss of lives won't be that high.

Who needs wars? Nature is enough.

(N.B. Unless, of course, you live on the east coast of Hawaii!)

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 04:10 PM
(N.B. Unless, of course, you live on the east coast of Hawaii!)

Too soon!

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 04:15 PM
I have some close friends in Santiago, so I watched the live coverage from Chilean TV last night.

Bachelet was pretty friggin' amazing. She came out at 7 a.m. after having been woken up by this major traumatic event and gave a press conference detailing everything the authorities knew at the time, calmly and without notes.

I can't imagine any US political figure being able to pull that off, including Barack or Hillary who are both pretty sharp. They would have said a few words and handed off to the detail-oriented experts.

Anyway, my friends are doing ok. Just one interior wall fell down and their building is fine. No lights or phone, but the Internet held up pretty well.

I am a survivor of the 1985 8.2 in Mexico City (ninth floor of an apt. building), so I get flashbacks.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 04:20 PM
Anyway, my friends are doing ok. Just one interior wall fell down and their building is fine. No lights or phone, but the Internet held up pretty well.

I am a survivor of the 1985 8.2 in Mexico City (ninth floor of an apt. building), so I get flashbacks.

I'm glad to hear about your friends.

I saw the damage in Mexico a couple of years later. The magnitude of the event is difficult to imagine unless you have experienced something similar.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 04:22 PM
(N.B. Unless, of course, you live on the east coast of Hawaii!)

Honest reply: ooops!

Save face reply: they can still head East... by airplane.

:)

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 04:22 PM
Here, in Socal, we just go surfin' anyway.

SAN DIEGO (AP) — Surfers contended with paltry waves and intermittent rain Saturday, defying advice to stay away from California beaches as a precaution after a deadly magnitude-8.8 earthquake struck off the coast of Chile and triggered a tsunami.

California was under a tsunami advisory that was issued for the entire West Coast. Forecasters predicted waves of up to three feet along parts of the coast, but did not expect widespread inundation or damage to occur.

"You could definitely ask for better day," said Josh Rapozo, 27, of Laguna Niguel, after competing in a qualifying match of a Professional Longboards Association contest at San Diego's Ocean Beach.

"We're just trying to stay on schedule, that's the biggest thing," said Jeff Stoner, the association's executive director.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 04:24 PM
Stoner had to be.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 04:24 PM
Too soon!

Huh?

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 04:28 PM
The magnitude of the event is difficult to imagine unless you have experienced something similar.

We were actually traumatized more by the aftershock the next day, which was a siete-punto-no-me-acuerdo-cuanto.

After having seen the death and devastation all day in our neighborhood, we went home and walked up the nine flights of stairs to a darkened apartment. Boom! The building we lived in was structurally up to code, but they had built too close on each side, so there wasn't enough sway room. As a result, our building was banging into the one next door. Absolutely terrifying. I was certain we were dying.

Then there are the "little" aftershocks that last for months. With every one you relive the original event.

No wonder I'm so crazy! :)

AemJeff
02-27-2010, 04:29 PM
Huh?

Think Gilbert Gottfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Gottfried). (Search the article text for the phrase for an explanation.)

Ocean
02-27-2010, 04:39 PM
No wonder I'm so crazy! :)

Shaken baby syndrome... :)

Ocean
02-27-2010, 05:38 PM
(N.B. Unless, of course, you live on the east coast of Hawaii!)

Fortunately nothing to worry (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/us/28warning.html?hp) about there.

AemJeff
02-27-2010, 05:41 PM
Fortunately nothing to worry (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/us/28warning.html?hp) about there.

Quite so. Quoting @badastronomer (http://twitter.com/BadAstronomer)

The water draining in and out of Hilo is astonishing. Nice to see no people are out there.
and

Have no doubt that this is a triumph of science. Hydrology, oceanography, geology, seismology... all led to hours of warning for Hawaii.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 05:49 PM
There may be better videos, but here (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/global/Category.asp?C=151146&clipId=&topVideoCatNo=91610&topVideoCatNoB=4758&topVideoCatNoC=75035&topVideoCatNoD=4773&topVideoCatNoE=96072&clipId=4580623&topVideoCatNo=91610&autoStart=true)is one showing the water receding from Hilo coast.

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 05:55 PM
[...]

[...]

Thanks for the updates, you two. Hope everyone else bordering on the Pacific comes through as well as it sounds like Hawaii did.

nikkibong
02-27-2010, 06:10 PM
I live a block from the beach, and I just walked down there to survey. The sea is EXTREMELY tempestuous - I've never seen it so agitated. It's not just that the swells are big (they are), it's the waves are oddly mishapen. (Some are collapsing in on themselves.) Two surfers were visible, extremely far out. Hope they're OK.

It also looks like a rain storm is about to blow in, adding an extra aura of ominousness.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 06:14 PM
I live a block from the beach, and I just walked down there to survey. The sea is EXTREMELY tempestuous - I've never seen it so agitated. It's not just that the swells are big (they are), it's the waves are oddly mishapen. (Some are collapsing in on themselves.) Two surfers were visible, extremely far out. Hope they're OK.

It also looks like a rain storm is about to blow in, adding an extra aura of ominousness.

Head for the hills, nikki, head for the hills!

OK, I'm kidding. But, are you safe there? I guess only high surf is anticipated, right?

nikkibong
02-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Head for the hills, nikki, head for the hills!

OK, I'm kidding. But, are you safe there? I guess only high surf is anticipated, right?

You are correct. Also, I live on the top floor my building...

And have all of the beer (not stout) I need to make it a few days.

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 06:19 PM
[...]

Thanks for that.

Stay safe. Keep your radio on.

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 06:24 PM
Quite so. Quoting @badastronomer (http://twitter.com/BadAstronomer)

[...]

Have no doubt that this is a triumph of science. Hydrology, oceanography, geology, seismology... all led to hours of warning for Hawaii.

On a related note (http://twitter.com/pourmecoffee/status/9748056790):

pourmecoffee Easy to mock government, but our science and, yes -- bureaucracy --- are the envy of the world and keep us safe.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 06:25 PM
You are correct. Also, I live on the top floor my building...

And have all of the beer (not stout) I need to make it a few days.

Phewww! What a relief!

I bet you hadn't heard about the "Motherly Ocean". :)

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 06:38 PM
KagroX (http://twitter.com/KagroX/status/9739606498), via TavernWench (http://twitter.com/TavernWench/status/9739819796):

Obama caused this earthquake so that a tsunami would wash away the real birth certificate.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 06:46 PM
Obama caused this earthquake so that a tsunami would wash away the real birth certificate.




Is the tsunami expected on the coasts of the Indian Ocean? ;)

bjkeefe
02-27-2010, 07:03 PM
Is the tsunami expected on the coasts of the Indian Ocean? ;)

Aha! You're too sharp to be fooled by the Obama-is-a-US-citizen nuts -- you did not fall for the "Hawaii" assumption.

Ocean
02-27-2010, 07:06 PM
Aha! You're too sharp to be fooled by the Obama-is-a-US-citizen nuts -- you did not fall for the "Hawaii" assumption.

:)

graz
02-27-2010, 08:29 PM
Bachelet was pretty friggin' amazing. She came out at 7 a.m. after having been woken up by this major traumatic event and gave a press conference detailing everything the authorities knew at the time, calmly and without notes.

I can't imagine any US political figure being able to pull that off, including Barack or Hillary who are both pretty sharp. They would have said a few words and handed off to the detail-oriented experts.


Really? This natural disaster inspires you to praise the competency under fire of one individual by contrasting it to your imagined failure of any U.S. official - including your grudgingly respected President or Sec/State?

Maybe it's the flashbacks?

I lived and worked in the Marina district of San Francisco during the Loma Prieta Quake of 1989 (only 7.1). I was injured (none to seriously) by a product falling off a collapsed shelf in a retail store. My motorcycle faired far worse, as it was totaled by a collapsed carport. Life goes on.

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 08:34 PM
Shaken baby syndrome...

In a way, yes! Within two years of the earthquake we had two baby daughters. Do you think we were subconsciously replenishing the Earth?

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 08:35 PM
Life goes on.

¡Muy macho!

Ocean
02-27-2010, 08:56 PM
In a way, yes! Within two years of the earthquake we had two baby daughters. Do you think we were subconsciously replenishing the Earth?

Dangerous experiences can make people bond. Sometimes the bonding is pretty extreme. You may have had a case of that.

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 09:41 PM
Dangerous experiences can make people bond. Sometimes the bonding is pretty extreme. You may have had a case of that.

Well, we were already bonded. Married, if fact. We just didn't have a plan to have kids. The way the biological-psychological clock coincided with the earthquake always made me wonder if the disaster helped trigger a genetic post-catastrophe program.

My carrier is HealthNet if you want to bill for this consultation :)

Ocean
02-27-2010, 09:52 PM
Well, we were already bonded. Married, if fact. We just didn't have a plan to have kids. The way the biological-psychological clock coincided with the earthquake always made me wonder if the disaster helped trigger a genetic post-catastrophe program.

My carrier is HealthNet if you want to bill for this consultation :)

Nah, I wouldn't charge to explore a friend's triggers for genetic existentialism.

Wonderment
02-27-2010, 09:58 PM
existentialism.

Pre-existing condition.

Lyle
02-28-2010, 12:09 AM
Bobby Jindal (http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/bobby-jindals-hurricane-handling-comes-in-for-more-praise_10094455.html) during Hurricane Gustav was as good as it can get.