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JonIrenicus
02-25-2010, 02:35 AM
Saw this on tv tonight from Keith Olbermann.



http://gawker.com/5479820/olbermanns-latest-ranty-overshare-is-actually-kind-of-good



The vast majority of the time he comes across as a fool to me, but at least this rant right there came across as authentic and understandable as a rationale for wanting to cover all people. How one might come to argue for it being a "right."

And so he gave the authentic argument, overflowing with Ethos and Pathos, if not necessarily Logos.


I still can't go so far as thinking of health care as being a "right" in the same way I consider freedom of speech a right, but I can say I am sympathetic to having more people covered.


The argument of cost does not have the same force, and frankly does not come across as authentically liberal. The authentically liberal argument would seem to say yes it will cost more to cover more people, and we should be glad to pay for it because we think it is the right thing to do.

bjkeefe
02-25-2010, 12:07 PM
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I am with you in disliking casting health care as a right. I also do not generally like policy arguments from personal anecdote. But this was a good one, and thanks for sharing the link.

I will paste Maureen O'Connor's pitch below, since it captures pretty well my feelings, about KO in general, and this clip in particular.

Olbermann's Latest Ranty Overshare Is Actually Kind of Good

Keith Olbermann is a narcissistic outrage junkie. But when he's right, it's a show stopper. With his father currently on his deathbed, Olbermann gave health care's "death panel" controversy an impassioned send-up by telling his family's story.

Normally Keith's melodramatic vocal wavering and gravitas compulsions tire. But sometimes the stars align and he aims deserved outrage in the right direction (last year's Special Comment on gay marriage comes to mind (http://www.queerty.com/keith-olbermann-special-comment-on-gay-marriage-20081110/)) and the resulting rant is a sight to behold. Olbermann began last night's Special Comment with a bracing, uncomfortable confessionó"Last Friday night, my father asked me to kill him"óbefore steamrolling through several minutes of hair-raising TMI's about his father's agonizing six-month hospitalization, accumulating in the old man shaking his head and mouthing "Kill me." Keith describes desperate conversations with his father's doctor, then announces "that conversation, that one, are what these ghouls... called death panels." Then he gets into some cheesy stuff about calling it a "life panel" instead, but by then I was knee-deep in the political version of the final scene from The Notebook, so it didn't even faze me.

A heavy-handed bit of political theater, sure. But a good, moving, and gripping one. (I just watched 13 minutes a guy weeping for a cause I was already dead set on supporting. Is this how it feels to be a Glenn Beck fan?) So hats off to Keith Olbermann, who just blew Palin's "don't death panel my baby" rhetoric out of the water.

Watch it. (http://gawker.com/5479820/olbermanns-latest-ranty-overshare-is-actually-kind-of-good)

bjkeefe
02-25-2010, 03:05 PM
Speaking of which, here are a couple of nice short clips [one (http://wonkette.com/413909/matt-drudge-is-bored), two (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_02/022589.php)] of your President making exactly that.

[Added] Oh, and here is one from your Republican party being typically inauthentic (http://wonkette.com/413912/nrcc-scared-of-something-something-terrible).

[Added2] And some more authenticity, sadly, which can only be delivered in the form of comedy (http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/jon-stewart-mocks-gop-complaints-about-hcr-summit-mr-president-we-cannot-talk-about-health-care-unti.php).

bjkeefe
03-19-2010, 12:44 AM
Saw this on tv tonight from Keith Olbermann.



http://gawker.com/5479820/olbermanns-latest-ranty-overshare-is-actually-kind-of-good

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Update (http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2010/03/theodore_c_olbe.html), in case you hadn't heard.

More here (http://keitholbermann.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/theodore_c_olbermann_1929-2010.html).