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08-08-2009, 01:12 PM
We have a completely different method to deal with PZ/Dawkins and their blind deluded followers:






I'm SO awesome!
08-08-2009, 01:22 PM
do your parents know you're retarded?

08-09-2009, 01:23 PM

08-09-2009, 02:00 PM

I see this clown has been wandering around the Internets, posting the same idiocy elsewhere (e.g. (http://dailygrail.com/node/7842), e.g. (http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/ee9f1e5c70fc4d11?pli=1), e.g. (http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?p=789387#post789387), e.g. (http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/talk-about-anything/65005-atheist-apocalypse.html)).

Apparently, the delusion that this crackpot (and others?) are laboring under is that he has (they have?) "stopped" the JREF Million Dollar Challenge.

For the record, here is the statement from the James Randi Foundation (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/144-swift-january-4-2008.html#i4), posted by James Randi on 3 January 2008, that likely provided the impetus (but see update below):


All this brings us to the Subject of the Week here on SWIFT.

It was March 6th, 1998, when the JREF Million-Dollar Challenge first came into existence. That’s almost ten years ago. It’s always been a simple, direct, matter: do what you claim you can do of a paranormal nature, and walk away with the prize. Our expectations at first were that we’d attract major personalities by this means, but they’ve avoided having to take the test by simply not applying; those who have actually applied are generally honestly self-deluded persons who have difficulty stating what they can do, which can be understood if they really don’t know what they’re experiencing; we at JREF have gone through involved procedures to help them recognize their problems. Usually, they have indicated that they don’t know what real scientific rules are, when it comes down to their actually being properly tested.

All this is obvious to anyone who has followed the action over the last decade. Now, while the JREF earns a certain income from having the prize money very conservatively invested, that sum could certainly be used more productively if it were made freely available to us.

As of March 6th, 2010 – twelve years after the challenge was first offered – it will be.

The James Randi Educational Foundation Million-Dollar Challenge will be discontinued 24 months from this coming March 6th, and those prize funds will then be available to generally add to our flexibility. This move will free us to do many more projects, which will be announced at that time.

This means that all those wishing to be claimants are required to get their applications in before the deadline, properly filled out and notarized as described in the published rules.

Now, we’re sure that there will be those who will offer all kinds of objections to this decision – though they could have simply applied and won the prize. There will be accusations that the JREF is concerned about the safety of the prize money – which was never any sort of concern, I can assure you – and there will be more claims that the money was never there in the first place. I can see the professionals out there sighing in relief that they no longer have to answer questions about why they won’t take the prize, and they’ll just wait out the remaining period that the prize is available. All that’s to be expected.

Ten years is long enough to wait. The hundreds of poorly-constructed applications, and the endless hours of phone, e-mail, and in-person discussions we’ve had to suffer through, will be things of the past, for us at the JREF.

Those who believe they have mystic powers now have two full years to apply… Let’s see what happens.



Looking into this a little further, I came across this statement from Phil Plait (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/jref-news/640-million-dollar-challenge-update-its-not-ending.html), who is now President of the James Randi Educational Foundation (in addition to being the Bad Astronomer), posted 29 July 2009:

Million Dollar Challenge Update: It's not ending!
Latest JREF News (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/jref-news.html)
Written by Phil Plait
Wednesday, 29 July 2009 10:00

We have a fantastic announcement to make:

The JREF's famous Million Dollar Challenge (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html) will continue!

Last year, we announced that the MDC would end in March 2010 due to the strains on time and effort of the JREF staff. However, after much discussion, we have decided not to terminate the Challenge. Instead, we are in the process of examining how it can be improved, streamlined, and made more efficient so that we can continue to use it to test claims of the paranormal.

However, we haven't made any final decisions about it yet; we're taking our time and making sure we do this right. When next March comes around we will roll out the new and improved Million Dollar Challenge. So never fear! We will continue to test the claims and examine the evidence, and we will always strive to ensure that reality - as it usually tends to do - wins out.

Last Updated on Wednesday, 29 July 2009 10:35



Looking around at various permutations of the name, I Googled davidmabus (http://www.google.com/search?q=davidmabus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) and came across, for example, this (http://gaytheist.wordpress.com/2008/06/08/david-mabus-still-a-nobody-wants-more-attention/) and this (http://skippytheskeptic.blogspot.com/2008/05/who-hell-is-david-mabus.html). Make of them what you will.

More fun available by Googling Dennis Markuze (http://www.google.com/search?q=Dennis+Markuze&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a), it appears. See PZ's "dungeon (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/plonk.php)," for example.

I'm SO awesome!
08-09-2009, 04:37 PM
nice! he was quickly owned. funny stuff, bj:)

uncle ebeneezer
08-09-2009, 07:28 PM
Wow, good thing bhTv doesn't use these standards, or I can think of a couple people who would disappear pretty quickly;-)

High Crimes and Misdemeanors

What gets people put into the Pharyngula killfile dungeon? This is a list of annoyances; it usually takes more than one incident to get thrown in the slammer, though. The people who've been incarcerated are typically persistent and have a known history of pulling these stunts over and over again.
Concern trolling A particularly annoying form of trolling in which someone falsely pretends to be offering advice to favor a position they do not endorse; a creationist who masquerades as someone concerned about the arguments for evolution as an excuse to make criticisms.
Godbotting Making an argument based only on the premise that your holy book is sufficient authority; citing lots of bible verses as if they were persuasive.
Insipidity A great crime. Being tedious, repetitive, and completely boring; putting the blogger to sleep by going on and on about the same thing all the time.
Morphing Changing pseudonyms to avoid killfiles.
Slagging Making only disparaging comments about a group; while some of this is understandable, if your only contribution is consistently "X is bad", even in threads that aren't about X, then you're simply slagging, not discussing.
Sockpuppetry Like morphing, but with a specific intent: creating multiple identities supporting a position to create a false impression of popularity
Spamming Using the comments to sell real estate, mortgage assessments, little blue pills, porn, or Russian mail-order brides. Spammers are not tolerated at all; they are expunged without comment.
Stupidity Some people will just stun you with the outrageous foolishness of their comments; those who seem to say nothing but stupid things get the axe.
Trolling Making comments intended only to disrupt a thread and incite flames and confusion.
Wanking Making self-congratulary comments intended only to give an impression of your importance or intelligence.

08-10-2009, 01:54 AM
Wow, good thing bhTv doesn't use these standards, or I can think of a couple people who would disappear pretty quickly;-)

A couple? Only two?

Praise tolerance!


(I am unable to decide how many percent I assign to "serious" and how many to "kidding" on that last.)