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TwinSwords
07-26-2009, 03:18 PM
Excellent discussion on the Democratic proposals, Republican obstruction, and the only real answer: single payer.

As one would expect from a political system dominated by corporations and the wealthy, the options before us are:

(1) The Republican-backed status quo, which leaves nearly 50,000,000 Americans uninsured.

(2) The Democratic plan, which retains private insurance companies and imposes a "health care mandate" that requires every citizen to buy insurance a massive giveaway to wealthy, private interests at the expense of the American people.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2315/moyers.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-W035ADw0s)

Bill Moyers discusses the healthcare debate with Trudy Lieberman (City University of New York), and Marcia Angell, MD (Harvard Medical School)

Watch Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-W035ADw0s)

I'm SO awesome!
07-26-2009, 09:51 PM
Yeah, bill has been especially helpful on this issue lately. I never miss his show !

TwinSwords
07-26-2009, 10:33 PM
He really is great. I need to make a point to watch him every week. For some reason I have never gotten into the habit of watching him regularly.

I'm SO awesome!
07-26-2009, 11:27 PM
I'm exactly the same way. Occasionally I watch it "live" but most often I wait til it's posted and then watch. I'm really not sure why but I guess it might be because with him and other free shows like Frontline I like to see if it's something I'm interested in before watching. Anyway, without bill, nyt, frontline, MoJo, etc. we'd be royally fucked for honest analysis.

cognitive madisonian
08-03-2009, 09:29 AM
The status quo doesn't 'leave' 50 million Americans uninsured. Somewhere arund 1/4 to 3/4 of all uninsured could afford health care and simply choose not to be responsible and have it.

So, more like a fourth of that, many of whom are marginally employed people.

Starwatcher162536
08-03-2009, 07:01 PM
Eh, I am not a huge fan of the idea of national health-care, but do not rail against it, as I am not very informed on this subject.

However, I am a fan of national health-care for kids. The quality of health-care a kid gets should not depend on an accident of birth. Why not slow down, create a single payer system for exclusively those under 18, and see how it goes?

Edit:
I would like to see alot more of comparative expense/outcome studies for various treatments, and more mechanisms to try and divorce the amount of money doctors make and the amount of tests/prescriptions said doctor hands out.