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JonIrenicus
05-14-2009, 01:13 AM
He seems to be the living embodiment of all that is malevolent and terrible and twisted in this world for liberals.

It's kind of fun to watch the reactions to him.


Come on you Ahabs, you know he raises your blood pressure.

"Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!"

claymisher
05-14-2009, 03:07 AM
He seems to be the living embodiment of all that is malevolent and terrible and twisted in this world for liberals.

It's kind of fun to watch the reactions to him.


Come on you Ahabs, you know he raises your blood pressure.

"Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee. Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces, while still chasing thee, though tied to thee, thou damned whale! Thus, I give up the spear!"

If he broke the law, if he authorized torture, which is a war crime, which the US executed people for after WW2, then he needs to be prosecuted. I wish the fucker would just shut and go away so we could get on with universal health care and energy/climate.

Look, I know conservatives get a big woody thinking that you're pissing off the liberals, but we don't care anymore. You're pathetic. You're dying off. We're winning. We're all laughing at you.

JonIrenicus
05-14-2009, 04:28 AM
If he broke the law, if he authorized torture, which is a war crime, which the US executed people for after WW2, then he needs to be prosecuted. I wish the fucker would just shut and go away so we could get on with universal health care and energy/climate.

Look, I know conservatives get a big woody thinking that you're pissing off the liberals, but we don't care anymore. You're pathetic. You're dying off. We're winning. We're all laughing at you.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1205857/khan_quotes/


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bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 06:55 AM
Look, I know conservatives get a big woody thinking that you're pissing off the liberals, but we don't care anymore. You're pathetic. You're dying off. We're winning. We're all laughing at you.

Quite true. It's amazing how little else seems to motivate the core of the GOP and the "conservative movement" these days.

Actually, though, I think many Dems like having Cheney being the face of the GOP, along with Rush Limbaugh. Nothing like having a pair of miserable old fat bastards, both of whom carry a sub-20% approval rating, as convenient synecdoches.

I think it's also the case that while Cheney sucks up media attention and hence, GOP oxygen, it makes it harder for them to build momentum for their obstructionism in other areas.

bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 07:20 AM
Meanwhile, speaking of white whales, this latest stunt by the GOP to "officially rename (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/05/republicans_to.php)" the Democratic Party is just too hilarious for words.

I think right-blogger Allahpundit from Hot Air (http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/13/stupid-rnc-to-pass-resolution-rebranding-democrats-the-democrat-socialist-party/) (via (http://www.poligazette.com/2009/05/14/republicans-to-brand-democrats-as-democrat-socialist-party/)) put it well:

Just the sort of smart, sober gesture (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0509/22445.html) we need to convince Americans of the party’s new seriousness of purpose. Even Michael Steele — Michael Steele — sees the publicity trainwreck a-comin’, although he’s powerless to stop it.

Oh well. The base will love it, and that’s all that matters.

A member of the Republican National Committee told me Tuesday that when the RNC meets in an extraordinary special session next week, it will approve a resolution rebranding Democrats as the “Democrat Socialist Party.”

When I asked if such a resolution would force RNC Chairman Michael Steele to use that label when talking about Democrats in all his speeches and press releases, the RNC member replied: “Who cares?”…

Steele wrote a memo last month opposing the resolution. Steele said that while he believes Democrats “are indeed marching America toward European-style socialism,” he also said in a (rare) flash of insight that officially referring to them as the Democrat Socialist Party “will accomplish little than to give the media and our opponents the opportunity to mischaracterize Republicans.”

More than anything, this reeks of impotence, operating almost as a concession that the right’s argument on the merits that the left is evolving towards socialism isn’t working to shift public opinion. So now they’re going to up the ante by trying the hard sell: Just repeat “socialism” as much as possible to try to drive it into people’s skulls, never minding the fact that that term’s already lost some of its taboo and might well lose more as it goes further mainstream. Or at least, I hope that’s the GOP strategy here. The alternative, that they’re simply sticking their fingers in their ears and repeating “socialist” over and over out of spite like a five-year-old, is too depressing to contemplate. What’s next, a formal resolution declaring french fries “freedom fries” in the Republican Party henceforth and forevermore?

I think the "too-depressing-to-contemplate" alternative is actually true for many Republicans, based on the fund-raising emails I've been getting from them since last October. They seem obsessed with the S-word, or at least believe that invoking it has magical powers with their base.

I'm further convinced of the "five-year-old" mentality by noting with delight the continued wingnut obsession with saying "Democrat Party." This is classic grade-school stuff.

The really delicious part, as many have noted (e.g. (http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=05&year=2009&base_name=on_socialism_in_america)), is that this effort to tie the word SOCIALISM!!!1! to Obama -- while Obama is enjoying healthy approval ratings -- seems mostly to be having the effect of making young people think the S-word means something good.

I give it a month until Rush Limbaugh and friends start saying "National Democrat Socialist Party" and then "Democrat National Socialist Party," at which point 85% of the country will stand up and say, "Godwin's Law," and what's left of the GOP will melt into a puddle and vanish, like the Wicked Witch of the West meeting her glass of water.

nikkibong
05-14-2009, 07:59 AM
Putting the dick back in Moby Dick - the former Vice President.

Although if anyone is a white whale, it is most definitely Mr. Limbaugh.

bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 08:06 AM
Meanwhile, speaking of white whales, this latest stunt by the GOP to "officially rename (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/05/republicans_to.php)" the Democratic Party is just too hilarious for words.

From David Wiegel (http://washingtonindependent.com/42680/here-comes-the-democrat-socialist-party):

In a totally unrelated development, Richard Posner has (http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/richard-posner-throwing-in-the-towel-on-the-conservative-movement.php) written that “conservative intellectuals now have no party.”

I came across Posner's post (http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/archives/2009/05/is_the_conserva.html) a couple of days ago. It's worth a read.

claymisher
05-14-2009, 02:29 PM
While we're on the topic, let's flesh out the core-motivation-of-the-conservative-movement-is-pissing-off-hippies deal:

"Democrat Party."
Tire gauges in 2008.
The bandages in 2004.
Being bigoted and whining about being called on it.
Probably torture, although I think they might genuinely like torture.

Then there's McArdle boosting the Iraq adventure because she didn't want to be like on of those dirty fucking hippies. Oh yeah, and the entire village too.

claymisher
05-14-2009, 02:49 PM
This is what I mean about laughing at you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akjXqfvLu28#t=56s

bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 03:19 PM
While we're on the topic, let's flesh out the core-motivation-of-the-conservative-movement-is-pissing-off-hippies deal:

And don't forget about Wingnut (http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/03/27/whatre-you-rebelling-against-johnny-whaddya-got/) Earth (http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=19306) Hour (http://alicublog.blogspot.com/2009_03_29_archive.html#5616027311307751962) (or Day (http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/wingnut_gut_busters/)) celebrations.

claymisher
05-14-2009, 04:07 PM
Oh yeah, and the ne plus ultra of rightwing hissy fits: Obama liking the wrong mustard.

It's funny how that shit used to actually work. Throw a hissy fit, and watch the wimps cower and apologize. Classic bullying. Pathetic.

bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 04:16 PM
Oh yeah, and the ne plus ultra of rightwing hissy fits: Obama liking the wrong mustard.

I've proposed (http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/2009/05/from-now-on.html) calling any wingnut who uses the term "Dijongate" a mus-tard.

It's funny how that shit used to actually work. Throw a hissy fit, and watch the wimps cower and apologize. Classic bullying. Pathetic.

Speaking of hissy fits, this just in (http://bjkeefe.blogspot.com/2009/05/gop-we-got-nothin-so-heres-what-we-got_14.html).

And also: "Why Republicans Make Sore Losers (http://www.slate.com/id/2218297/)." (via (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/018176.php))

bjkeefe
05-14-2009, 04:24 PM
And besides hissy fits, we also have ... PANIC!!!1! (http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_05/018174.php):

Here's the Obama administration's plan for emptying out Guantanamo, as I understand it: Take each prisoner out of his cell. Give him a personal apology, a big kiss and an AK-47. Then hand him a free airline ticket good for any destination in the continental United States.

Note to PaulL and maximus444 (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=113729#post113729): This would be an example of sarcasm.