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uncle ebeneezer
04-28-2009, 02:25 AM
Hillarious!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEtFMj6ZiHM

AemJeff
04-28-2009, 08:47 AM
Hillarious!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEtFMj6ZiHM

I always thought Shep was just an empty suit anchor type. Having the balls to say that, right there, (not to mention this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkMqvy-D5hM&feature=PlayList&p=7C0C41CD9D8D0F7E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=91)) - I'm beginning to become a real fan.

Dude.

bjkeefe
04-28-2009, 08:52 AM
I always thought Shep was just an empty suit anchor type. Having the balls to say that, right there, (not to mention this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkMqvy-D5hM&feature=PlayList&p=7C0C41CD9D8D0F7E&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=91)) - I'm beginning to become a real fan.

Dude.

And don't forget about this (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/opinion/01sat4.html). Before Election Day, no less.

AemJeff
04-28-2009, 09:03 AM
And don't forget about this (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/opinion/01sat4.html). Before Election Day, no less.

Nice catch. I'd missed that.

nikkibong
06-02-2009, 08:59 PM
Shep Smith, still the man:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/02/shepard-smith-calls-chene_n_210498.html

Lyle
06-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Haha... Shep is the one wrong on this one. Cheney artfully stated that he supports the current process of legalizing marriage, i.e., individual States decide to have it or not have it. No cop out at all.

Linkins article is kind of lame. Dick Cheney supports gay marriage. He just articulated this again to a national audience and I imagine he'd vote for gay marriage in Wyoming if it came up for a vote. He doesn't have to do anymore than that.

nikkibong
06-10-2009, 05:32 PM
http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/06/shep_smith_on_extremist_violence.php

bjkeefe
06-10-2009, 06:52 PM
http://ta-nehisicoates.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/06/shep_smith_on_extremist_violence.php

Thanks for that. A good clip, and a good man. I hope he has some effect on some of Fox's regular viewers, especially in light of today's events.

Lyle
06-10-2009, 06:56 PM
Do you actually think Fox News' 'regulars' think anything but what happened today was a tragedy?

There are some crazy people on the Right, even crazier people like this guy von Brumm... but Fox News doesn't support this kind of racist, bigoted nonsense.

bjkeefe
06-10-2009, 07:14 PM
Do you actually think Fox News' 'regulars' think anything but what happened today was a tragedy?

I think there are some who think this way, yes. Today's shooter, I'm quite sure, is not the only racist/anti-Semite/nut in this entire country.

I also think there are more Fox viewers who are somewhat on the fence about things like this. Certainly, there has been no shortage of insane overreaction to the DHS report on right-wing extremism that predicted exactly the sort of behavior we've seen in today's shooting and the murder of Dr. Tiller. I expect there are plenty of people who watch Fox regularly who don't explicitly condone what happened today, but have something of a "yes, but ..." attitude in their minds.

There are some crazy people on the Right, even crazier people like this guy von Brumm... but Fox News doesn't support this kind of racist, bigoted nonsense.

I agree that Fox does not say the exact same things today's shooter is reported to have said. But they do dance up to the line all the time; e.g., O'Reilly and his non-stop "Tiller the Killer" rants, Glenn Beck and his paranoid view of Obama's secret agenda, the non-stop references to Hitler, fascism, communism on many of their shows, Hannity's outright lying, the platform they give to all manner of unhinged guests, the constant reinforcement of a victim and seige mentality ... the list goes on and on.

Have a look at Media Matters (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediamatters.org+fox), for example. Even if you insist that all MM does is cherry-pick the worst parts, there is no denying the overwhelming number of cherries.

claymisher
06-10-2009, 07:31 PM
Have a look at Media Matters (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediamatters.org+fox), for example. Even if you insist that all MM does is cherry-pick the worst parts, there is no denying the overwhelming number of cherries.

Yeah, what about all the women Ted Bundy didn't kill! Nobody ever talks about that!

Lyle
06-10-2009, 07:47 PM
Yes, and the Left oft referred to Bush as Hitler. None of those guys on Fox support whack jobs like von Brumm. Did he even watch Fox News? The Fox people go out of their way to say they don't respect right-wing extremists, as do all the pro-life groups.

Crazy is just crazy.

Just like the crazy Muslim convert who shot the two U.S. soldiers last week in Arkansas, killing one of them. I guess the Muslims who converted him should be blamed to.

bjkeefe
06-10-2009, 08:07 PM
Yes, and the Left oft referred to Bush as Hitler. None of those guys on Fox support whack jobs like von Brumm. Did he even watch Fox News? The Fox people go out of their way to say they don't respect right-wing extremists, as do all the pro-life groups.

Crazy is just crazy.

Just like the crazy Muslim convert who shot the two U.S. soldiers last week in Arkansas, killing one of them. I guess the Muslims who converted him should be blamed to.

Your willful obtuseness isn't doing it for me today, Lial. Find someone else to act like a nine-year-old around.

TwinSwords
06-10-2009, 08:10 PM
Thanks for the link.

Here's another clip from the same discussion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxvunbIWNyI).

Lyle
06-10-2009, 08:21 PM
You don't have a real, grown-up response do you?

TwinSwords
06-10-2009, 08:28 PM
I think there are some who think this way, yes. Today's shooter, I'm quite sure, is not the only racist/anti-Semite/nut in this entire country.

I also think there are more Fox viewers who are somewhat on the fence about things like this. Certainly, there has been no shortage of insane overreaction to the DHS report on right-wing extremism that predicted exactly the sort of behavior we've seen in today's shooting and the murder of Dr. Tiller. I expect there are plenty of people who watch Fox regularly who don't explicitly condone what happened today, but have something of a "yes, but ..." attitude in their minds.

I agree that Fox does not say the exact same things today's shooter is reported to have said. But they do dance up to the line all the time; e.g., O'Reilly and his non-stop "Tiller the Killer" rants, Glenn Beck and his paranoid view of Obama's secret agenda, the non-stop references to Hitler, fascism, communism on many of their shows, Hannity's outright lying, the platform they give to all manner of unhinged guests, the constant reinforcement of a victim and seige mentality ... the list goes on and on.

Have a look at Media Matters (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediamatters.org+fox), for example. Even if you insist that all MM does is cherry-pick the worst parts, there is no denying the overwhelming number of cherries.

Very well said. You nailed it.

bjkeefe
06-10-2009, 10:04 PM
You don't have a real, grown-up response do you?

Not for you, Lial. As with any grown-up, dealing with a nine-year-old can get to a place where the child is annoying, knows he's being annoying, and thrives on provoking a reaction to his annoying behavior. The only thing for me or any other adult to do in such cases is to ignore said child.

When you're ready to act your age, when you're ready to have a discussion where you don't try to twist my responses all out of recognition just because you don't like my answers, when you get past this hang-up of yours where you appear to be worried that you've lost face every time someone makes a well-supported argument against you, maybe then I will offer you a "real, grown-up response." But not until then. Right now, all you're doing is being a pest, and you don't deserve any consideration.

bjkeefe
06-10-2009, 10:23 PM
Very well said. You nailed it.

Thanks. And thanks also for the supporting evidence offered in that video clip you linked to (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=116006#post116006).

Lyle
06-10-2009, 11:50 PM
bjkeefe,

Weak. You need to get serious about yourself and your politics. You're struggling man. Calling someone a 9 year old because you can't deal with the fact that they don't agree with you... really, really serious.

Man up and make an argument bjkeefe otherwise the field is mine. You've turned and run before getting close enough to do any damage.

graz
06-11-2009, 12:01 AM
Man up and make an argument bjkeefe otherwise the field is mine. You've turned and run before getting close enough to do any damage.

I'd support a war to imprison Lyle. It probably won't come to that.

bjkeefe
06-11-2009, 01:54 AM
I'd support a war to imprison Lyle. It probably won't come to that.

Yeah, prison is probably excessive. Probably something like this (http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/images/2006/05/leash.jpg) would do the trick.

TwinSwords
06-11-2009, 07:45 AM
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TwinSwords
08-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Shep Smith suggests viewers better off Googling "reconciliation" than relying on Fox for info (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFlxod6ljc)

ROFL @ Carl Cameron's suggestion that "Democrats are blowing up bipartisanship." No lie is so transparent that Republicans refrain from telling it.

uncle ebeneezer
08-25-2009, 06:49 PM
I don't have a huge data set to go by, but after watching a handful of youtube clips of Shep, I wonder even why he's on Fox News to begin with? His practice of asking real questions and critiquing many of the wingnut talking points (in other words being honest and showing journalistic integrity), doesn't exactly fit with Fox's usual MO.

bjkeefe
08-25-2009, 07:02 PM
Shep Smith suggests viewers better off Googling "reconciliation" than relying on Fox for info (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGFlxod6ljc)

ROFL @ Carl Cameron's suggestion that "Democrats are blowing up bipartisanship." No lie is so transparent that Republicans refrain from telling it.

There were so many lies in what he said I lost track. Shameless.

But some mild kudos to Shep Smith for the closing remark, I agree.

bjkeefe
08-25-2009, 07:03 PM
I don't have a huge data set to go by, but after watching a handful of youtube clips of Shep, I wonder even why he's on Fox News to begin with? His practice of asking real questions and critiquing many of the wingnut talking points (in other words being honest and showing journalistic integrity), doesn't exactly fit with Fox's usual MO.

Either he is the token honest guy, or he has pictures of Rupert Murdoch and a couple of well-hung billy goats.

TwinSwords
08-25-2009, 07:28 PM
Either he is the token honest guy, or he has pictures of Rupert Murdoch and a couple of well-hung billy goats.

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TwinSwords
08-25-2009, 07:30 PM
There were so many lies in what he said I lost track. Shameless.

But some mild kudos to Shep Smith for the closing remark, I agree.

Yeah, you're right, it's still relatively mild.

But also, mild kudos for pointing out at the start that Republicans have used reconciliation many times.

bjkeefe
08-25-2009, 08:35 PM
Yeah, you're right, it's still relatively mild.

But also, mild kudos for pointing out at the start that Republicans have used reconciliation many times.

Yes.

Sad that we have to deliver kudos for doing what would be considered "his job" on any other channel.