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bjkeefe
04-16-2009, 07:48 PM
This may be of interest (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/16/bush-torture-memos-releas_n_187867.html) to some of you:

Bush Torture Memos Released By Obama: See The Complete Documents

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The Huffington Post has obtained the memos and is putting them on the website for the public to view. Please help us read through the material and report back what you find.

Email address for reporting your results at the link, along with statements (excerpts?) from Obama and Patrick Leahy.

[Added] I've skimmed them -- so far, it does not look like more than an occasional name or codeword has been redacted. Hurray for Obama.

The documents are displayed through a fancy viewer of some kind. Use the full screen button on the viewer, unless your eyes are way better than mine. If I come across a more readable version, I'll update this post.

[Added] Found PDFs. Links in a separate post (http://bloggingheads.tv/forum/showthread.php?p=110642#post110642) below.

graz
04-16-2009, 09:19 PM
What I'm unclear on is how to square the illegality of torture and the culpability of the actors in light of the memos?
Were they just doing their jobs?
Should they be prosecuted?

AemJeff
04-16-2009, 09:26 PM
What I'm unclear on is how to square the illegality of torture and the culpability of the actors in light of the memos?
Were they just doing their jobs?
Should they be prosecuted?

You can be sure that the political cost of prosecution is a strong factor here.

bjkeefe
04-17-2009, 01:56 AM
If I come across a more readable version, I'll update this post.

And here is your ...

[UPDATE] The ACLU has PDFs of the memos, links to which are all gathered up on one handy page (http://www.aclu.org/safefree/general/olc_memos.html), along with some remarks of their own for context, and some other materials. Came across this thanks to Glennzilla (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/radio/2009/04/16/aclu/index.html), whose post you might want to look at, and whose blog (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/) is certain to be a good place to watch for the next few days, even more so than it usually is. Also, hat tip to Jim Newell of Wonkette (http://wonkette.com/407906/407906) for pointing me to Glenn -- nice laugh there despite the gruesomeness of this situation.