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JonIrenicus
04-03-2009, 03:53 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NI6iu7e91Y&feature=related


Admit it, you were impressed.

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 06:40 AM
Nice.

But my vote for most (intentionally) hilarious fight scene goes to They Live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKFadyJxwg

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 11:29 AM
As far as "best acted" goes, I always thought the fight between the brothers (played by Stanley Tucci and Tony Shalhoub) in "Big Night" was the most realistic. Most people aren't any good at this sort of thing, look comical while doing it, and are quickly exhausted. They captured this perfectly.

I don't see a clip on YouTube after nearly thirty seconds of searching. Sorry. But if you've never seen this movie, you most definitely should run right out and rent it. It's great in all sorts of ways besides the fight scene, not least of which is every second that Isabella Rossellini is on screen.

claymisher
04-03-2009, 01:15 PM
You guys haven't seen Duplicity yet. :)

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 01:33 PM
You guys haven't seen Duplicity yet. :)

It does sound (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brookesidney-gavins/emduplicityem-the-sophist_b_182109.html) good, but I require overwhelming consensus before I'll see a Julia Roberts movie. With the exception of Erin Brockovich, which I quite liked, she's bugged me in everything I've ever seen her in.

No good reason. Just one of those unexplainable visceral reactions. Same thing as I feel when I see, say, Michael Douglas, who I could only stand in The Game because, in that, his role was to play an unlikeable asshole.

AemJeff
04-03-2009, 01:38 PM
It does sound (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brookesidney-gavins/emduplicityem-the-sophist_b_182109.html) good, but I require overwhelming consensus before I'll see a Julia Roberts movie. With the exception of Erin Brockovich, which I quite liked, she's bugged me in everything I've ever seen her in.

No good reason. Just one of those unexplainable visceral reactions. Same thing as I feel when I see, say, Michael Douglas, who I could only stand in The Game because, in that, his role was to play an unlikeable asshole.

Have you seen Charlie Wilson's War (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472062/)? I found a lot of new respect for Julia in what was truly a fine movie, even despite Tom Hanks' misunderstanding of a Texan accent.

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 01:45 PM
Have you seen Charlie Wilson's War (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472062/)? I found a lot of new respect for Julia in what was truly a fine movie, even despite Tom Hanks' misunderstanding of a Texan accent.

No, but I'd like to.

Hmmm ... maybe I should take both recommendations and try to overcome my aversion by immersion.

JonIrenicus
04-03-2009, 02:24 PM
Nice.

But my vote for most (intentionally) hilarious fight scene goes to They Live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKFadyJxwg

good try but not quite up to the standards and pure realism of the stingray fight. Remember the part where the girl with the broken arm in a sling starts doing cart wheels on her arm on top of martial arts?

I think the realism and raw class of this scene wins out.

uncle ebeneezer
04-03-2009, 02:25 PM
Great thread. Rowdy Roddy Piper!

I thought this was a pretty good parody of fight scenes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02rlGHsqLOQ&feature=PlayList&p=1065A7482074ACED&index=60

I'll get back to you though with a real one (one that isn't supposed to be funny.)

Agree on Julia. Can't stand her.

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 03:05 PM
Erin Brockovich, which I quite liked

You liked that movie? But you didn't like her character, is that it? You liked the environmental message while not particularly liking the character she was playing?

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 03:19 PM
You liked that movie? But you didn't like her character, is that it? You liked the environmental message while not particularly liking the character she was playing?

Oh no. I absolutely loved her character. She pulled off gritty/tough/street smart/diamond in the rough ... call it what you will ... quite convincingly, to me, at least.

The thing I don't like about her in her other movies (and I haven't seen that many, to be sure) is that she never plays anything like that anywhere else that I've ever seen. Instead, her other characters are all flighty, fragile, neurotic, sort of a poster child for High Maintenance, and so this has come to form the image in my mind of who Julia Roberts is. This doesn't fully capture it. As I said earlier, it's a visceral, non-rational and hence non-explainable thing. But that's a piece, and all of it is in contrast to the Erin Brockovich character.

nikkibong
04-03-2009, 03:23 PM
This (http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/108) takes the cake

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 03:31 PM
Oh no. I absolutely loved her character. She pulled off gritty/tough/street smart/diamond in the rough ... call it what you will ... quite convincingly, to me, at least.

The thing I don't like about her in her other movies (and I haven't seen that many, to be sure) is that she never plays anything like that anywhere else that I've ever seen. Instead, her other characters are all flighty, fragile, neurotic, sort of a poster child for High Maintenance, and so this has come to form the image in my mind of who Julia Roberts is. This doesn't fully capture it. As I said earlier, it's a visceral, non-rational and hence non-explainable thing. But that's a piece, and all of it is in contrast to the Erin Brockovich character.

Interesting. I'm surprised. But I agree, and that's a good description of her character. That really was a great movie, too.

Speaking of Julia Roberts, the real life version, did you ever see that video of her confronting a paparazzo who had been taking pictures of her children? It might reinforce your impression of her as high maintenance, but probably would not reinforce your image of her as flightly. Speaking for myself, it gave me new respect for her.

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 03:32 PM
Interesting - but yeah, that's a good description of the character. I thought her character was great, and I thought that was a great movie, too.

Speaking of Julia Roberts, the real life version, did you ever see that video of her confronting a paparazzo who had been taking pictures of her children?

No. Was she a mama bear? Or a pampered starlet melting down?

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 03:34 PM
I'll try to find a link.

Note: I just updated my post above.

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 03:35 PM
I'll try to find a link.

Note: I just updated my post above.

Noted. Sounds like you think "mama bear" is the better description. Good for her.

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 03:42 PM
On short notice the best I can find is this partial clip:

http://fr.truveo.com/Julia-Roberts-chases-down-paparazzi/id/1924765955

And brace yourself: It's Olbermann. http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif

uncle ebeneezer
04-03-2009, 03:53 PM
I agree with Brendan. My issue with her was the fact that 99% of every role she plays is the flighty high-maintenance chick. Also I've heard that that pretty much IS what she's like in person.

Also there was this display which to me was totally Hollywood-actress-in-love-with-herself phonyness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0YbYECU7A

Not to mention, as good as she may have been in Erin B., I can't imagine it topping Ellen Burstyn's performance in Requiem.

uncle ebeneezer
04-03-2009, 03:57 PM
Pretty much any scene from this movie should be considered:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E4GEUkgq1U

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 04:03 PM
I agree with Brendan. My issue with her was the fact that 99% of every role she plays is the flighty high-maintenance chick. Also I've heard that that pretty much IS what she's like in person.

Also there was this display which to me was totally Hollywood-actress-in-love-with-herself phonyness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0YbYECU7A

Not to mention, as good as she may have been in Erin B., I can't imagine it topping Ellen Burstyn's performance in Requiem.

I have only seen two Julie Roberts movies in my life: Pretty Woman, in which I thought she was fairly decent (for that kind of movie), and Erin Brokovich, which I thought was first rate. I may have been influenced to feel that way by the story itself, though, and not so much her performance. As much as anything else, the movie was about the inherent dignity and worth of common people, and their ability to do good (or great) things. Thus my earlier surprise.

Funny you should mention Requiem: I was just thinking of that movie; truly a masterpiece. And you're right: Ellen Bursyn's performance was magnificent. As were Jennifer Connely's, Jared Leto's, and Marlon Wayans'.

bjkeefe
04-03-2009, 04:07 PM
On short notice the best I can find is this partial clip:

http://fr.truveo.com/Julia-Roberts-chases-down-paparazzi/id/1924765955

And brace yourself: It's Olbermann. http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/images/smilies/scared.gif

Meh. Hard to tell much from that. But if they really were filming her kids, she's right to flip out on them.

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Also there was this display which to me was totally Hollywood-actress-in-love-with-herself phonyness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0YbYECU7A

Aw jeez, what was so bad about that? It was quite gracious of her to give props to the other nominees, and the rest of it just seemed like the reaction of a normal person.

I guess I don't start with the requisite disdain to see what you're seeing.

TwinSwords
04-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Meh. Hard to tell much from that. But if they really were filming her kids, she's right to flip out on them.

Agreed.

uncle ebeneezer
04-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Requiem is one of my all-time favorites. I love dark movies. And that was about the DARKEST sh*t I've ever seen. That flick made me feel like crap for about 3 days afterwards (compliment.)

Speaking of dark, and JC, did you ever see Dark City?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpowoKqSzc

One of my favorite sci-fi movies.

And speaking of sci-fi:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175051/william_astore_affirming_our_prime_directive

uncle ebeneezer
04-03-2009, 04:16 PM
Some people just rub you the wrong way. I don't deny that my take on her is probably inaccurate, but it's tough for me to see her any other way.

TwinSwords
04-04-2009, 10:09 AM
Some people just rub you the wrong way.
That's true.

TwinSwords
04-04-2009, 10:20 AM
Requiem is one of my all-time favorites. I love dark movies. And that was about the DARKEST sh*t I've ever seen. That flick made me feel like crap for about 3 days afterwards (compliment.)
That is sooo true. Early in the movie you develop a kind of affection for all the main characters, imperfect as they are, you can relate to them and like them and understand them. And then to watch everything that happens to them over the next couple of hours is just horrifying. And like you said: it stays with you for a long time afterwards. I had the exact same experience: I could not stop thinking about it for a few days.



Speaking of dark, and JC, did you ever see Dark City?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpowoKqSzc

One of my favorite sci-fi movies.)

Definitely -- great movie!


And speaking of sci-fi:

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175051/william_astore_affirming_our_prime_directive
I cannot wait. The fact that it's directed by JJ Abrams is encouraging, too. Do you watch Lost?

Starwatcher162536
04-04-2009, 12:42 PM
Any answer that is not some permutation of "The last fight in Ricochet" is a wrong answer.

....

Okay, maybe the acting did suck, but it just dripped coolness.