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Starwatcher162536
03-28-2009, 04:13 PM
This should be required reading for anyone that promotes Intelligent Design.


http://www.cs.ucl.ac.uk/staff/W.Langdon/ftp/papers/GEMS_Article.pdf

P.S.
It is a little long and perhaps a little on the technical side. Still, even if you don't care about ID, this is still a fascinating discussion about software and evolution.

uncle ebeneezer
03-28-2009, 05:34 PM
Yeah but even if you shoot that theory down they'll just come back something better ;-):

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

claymisher
03-28-2009, 11:12 PM
Yeah but even if you shoot that theory down they'll just come back something better ;-):

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

That's a hoot.

In reality gravity is far more of a scientific mystery than evolution is. Evolution is a pretty simple process. Try to explain why there's gravity!

bjkeefe
03-29-2009, 08:07 AM
That's a hoot.

In reality gravity is far more of a scientific mystery than evolution is. Evolution is a pretty simple process. Try to explain why there's gravity!

Huh. There's a statement that could provoke no end of epistemological debate.

I do know what you mean -- the more you learn about gravity, the stranger it seems -- doesn't play well with quantum mechanics, seems to be "action at a distance," etc.

But in some sense, it just is. A characteristic of our universe, I mean. And while evolution seems to be a very straightforward concept, at the end of the day, there's no good reason why the evolutionary process should exist, any more than there is a reason why an apple should fall toward the ground. Really, why should life exist? Why should the universe exist?

You could also think of it this way -- maybe gravity is in some sense more mysterious, but we also understand it better, don't we? I mean, you can make some general predictions using evolutionary theory, but it's hard to be precise. You can't say with utter confidence, "If I change the environmental stresses thus, this species will respond exactly like this." On the other hand, you can launch a space probe to Neptune, and pretty much just by understanding gravity (and general relativity, for the last few digits past the decimal point), you can achieve an accuracy equivalent to scoring a hole in one with the tee in LA and the green in NYC.

Sorry. Haven't had my coffee yet.