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uncle ebeneezer
12-01-2008, 04:14 PM
Just wanted to throw this out there for all the worry-warts and naysayers who have been screaming that the sky is falling due to Obama's assembled foreign policy team not being enough of a "change" from previous administrations. Maybe he's thinking in a bit of a different direction:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/politics/01policy.html?_r=1&hp

And while we're on Presidential foreign policy, how pathetic is this man?

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/12/bush_goes_out_dodging.php

Yeah, if only the intelligence community (that he refused to listen to) had been better, we could have avoided this disastrous war (which we were told was entirely unavoidable, as it were).

bjkeefe
12-01-2008, 04:41 PM
Just wanted to throw this out there for all the worry-warts and naysayers who have been screaming that the sky is falling due to Obama's assembled foreign policy team not being enough of a "change" from previous administrations. Maybe he's thinking in a bit of a different direction:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/us/politics/01policy.html?_r=1&hp

And while we're on Presidential foreign policy, how pathetic is this man?

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2008/12/bush_goes_out_dodging.php

Yeah, if only the intelligence community (that he refused to listen to) had been better, we could have avoided this disastrous war (which we were told was entirely unavoidable, as it were).

First part doesn't apply to me (I think I read that story earlier today, in any case).

Thanks for the second link. Amazing, isn't he? However, after an entire life of screwing things up and getting bailed out without every having to admit wrongdoing or responsibility, we probably shouldn't be too surprised that he's behaving the same way now.

I'm not sure how much I buy Yglesias piling on to Greg Sargent's point about the lameness of the opposition, though. Granted, it was, but the whole point is that "the buck stops here." Stepping back a bit, I have to agree that they're right about a lot of people nominally on the left having an interest in burying the details of how the war was sold.

bjkeefe
12-01-2008, 04:57 PM
P.S. I'll tell you, though: Even more annoying than Bush's weaseling out of responsibility for his past decisions is his current behavior -- trying to issue last-minute executive orders that will harm the environment, and pushing to get his mid-level staff ensconced in the federal bureaucracy where they can't be fired, to name but two. Anyone with a conscience would be doing everything he could to help with the transition. Playing politics is all well and good when the country isn't in the middle of two wars and an economic meltdown, all largely due to his Administration.

Of course, Bush is saved by Jeebus, and consequently feels no need to do a little self-examination. He is unable to recognize or admit to himself what a fuckup he is, so it makes sense that he doesn't feel embarrassed about doing a few last-minute favors for his cronies and punting on anything that might smack or responsible adult behavior.

uncle ebeneezer
12-01-2008, 05:10 PM
It's ironic that W supporters once said it was time to restore dignity to the Oval Office. They were right on the $ with that statement, only off by 8 years and one administration.

bjkeefe
12-01-2008, 05:14 PM
It's ironic that W supporters once said it was time to restore dignity to the Oval Office. They were right on the $ with that statement, only off by 8 years and one administration.

Heh. Yeah. And as Harry Shearer is fond of saying, with his voice dripping with sarcasm: "Isn't it great to have the grownups in charge?"

Remember when that was a Bushie talking point?