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nikkibong
09-30-2008, 03:53 PM
A sad day; the demise of an exceptional newspaper: The New York Sun. (And the home institution of a few BHTV regulars.)

It will be missed.

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/ideal-of-the-scoop/86858/

bjkeefe
09-30-2008, 04:12 PM
A sad day; the demise of an exceptional newspaper: The New York Sun. (And the home institution of a few BHTV regulars.)

It will be missed.

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/ideal-of-the-scoop/86858/

Did you read it regularly, Nikki? I never did get around to doing more than following links that Eli would post. Sorry to hear about the loss for you.

nikkibong
09-30-2008, 06:42 PM
Did you read it regularly, Nikki? I never did get around to doing more than following links that Eli would post. Sorry to hear about the loss for you.

I stopped in at the website a couple of times a week, and liked to buy a copy whenever I found myself in the Big Apple.

In terms of New York sports and arts coverage, the Sun was indisputably at the top. Also, the vibrant, if quite conservative, editorial page was always a stimulating read. (Much more so than the moribund NYT.) ::Sigh:: - I guess it's back to the Wall Street Journal for my daily dose of the conservative Id.

bjkeefe
09-30-2008, 06:47 PM
I stopped in at the website a couple of times a week, and liked to buy a copy whenever I found myself in the Big Apple.

In terms of New York sports and arts coverage, the Sun was indisputably at the top. Also, the vibrant, if quite conservative, editorial page was always a stimulating read. (Much more so than the moribund NYT.) ::Sigh:: - I guess it's back to the Wall Street Journal for my daily dose of the conservative Id.

I have heard that about their arts coverage and opinion sections.

bjkeefe
10-02-2008, 01:03 AM
It will be missed.

By James Wolcott, too. A nice lament (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2008/10/upon-rising-from-bed-this.html).

nikkibong
10-02-2008, 01:10 PM
By James Wolcott, too. A nice lament (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2008/10/upon-rising-from-bed-this.html).

thanks for the link, brendan. glad to see a there's fellow liberal who will also miss the sun. though, as i said originally, i don't agree with wolcott's criticism of the editorial page. i appreciated the presence of opinions that challenged NYC orthodoxy.

bjkeefe
10-02-2008, 01:48 PM
thanks for the link, brendan. glad to see a there's fellow liberal who will also miss the sun. though, as i said originally, i don't agree with wolcott's criticism of the editorial page. i appreciated the presence of opinions that challenged NYC orthodoxy.

y/w. Glad you liked Wolcott's piece.

Do you not find the NY Daily News and the NY Post's opinion sections "challenge NYC orthodoxy"? (Haven't read them in years, so I don't know.)

What about the WSJ? Or is that all national, or does it have a NYC edition the way the NY Times does?

And what would you say represents the NYC orthodoxy besides the NY Times? Alt weeklies? WNYC?

nikkibong
10-02-2008, 02:43 PM
y/w. Glad you liked Wolcott's piece.

Do you not find the NY Daily News and the NY Post's opinion sections "challenge NYC orthodoxy"? (Haven't read them in years, so I don't know.)

What about the WSJ? Or is that all national, or does it have a NYC edition the way the NY Times does?

And what would you say represents the NYC orthodoxy besides the NY Times? Alt weeklies? WNYC?

NYC political orthodoxy: NY Times, The New Yorker, Village Voice, for a few.

The WSJ is entirely national. The Daily News is hardly right-wing. And, as for the Post, you may have a point, but it's just so *crude*. The NY Sun, (and to some extent, the WSJ), whilst certainly right wing, was always intellectually stimulating and well-argued. Ditto for the NY Press, though there has been significantly less political writing over there, lately.

Then again, the Oregonian, based here in PDX, is a very "middle of the road," paper, Wa-Po style. That's hardly in sync with the politics of this burg; those are probably better represented by the Wilamette Week, (http://wweek.com/) and the Portland Mercury. (http://www.portlandmercury.com/portland/Home)

bjkeefe
10-04-2008, 12:38 AM
Thanks.