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graz
09-27-2008, 10:08 PM
... Take a chance on me.

Election as crap shoot. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin/)

uncle ebeneezer
09-27-2008, 11:53 PM
I don't know what's the worst part:

A.) The fact that McCain actually likes ABBA
B.) Your knowledge of ABBA
C.) MY knowledge of ABBA
D.) The fact that I didn't see your joke a mile away
E.) The fact that it made me laugh heartily
F.) The fact that half of America may vote for him

Although I will say that that movie with the lady who was obsessed with ABBA, was pretty awesome.

bjkeefe
09-28-2008, 12:13 AM
... Take a chance on me.

Election as crap shoot. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin/)

That NYT article is fascinating. How about this buried nugget?

But interviews and records show that lobbyists and political operatives in Mr. McCain’s inner circle played a behind-the-scenes role in bringing Mr. Abramoff’s misdeeds to Mr. McCain’s attention — and then cashed in on the resulting investigation.

So The Maverick(tm) gets to polish his image in public by going after Abramoff, when the McCain people are making money off it. You also can pick up, from reading between the lines, that McCain found a convenient target in Abramoff to use for his own political gain.

Farther on, the whole thing begins to sound just like the stories you hear about drug dealers giving up one of their competitors to the cops -- not only do they get more market share, they also improve their own relations with the cops.

And then there's the thread of vengeance against past political opponents. And then the flip-flopping, again for political gain -- taking bundles of cash from the Indians for years, and then suddenly declaring Indian casinos "as one of three national issues that were 'out of control.'" And the Lieberman connection!

Man this whole article is just delicious.

graz
09-29-2008, 04:46 AM
Eb:
I feel your pain on letter f.
Although I didn't catch the musical, I recently saw an ABBA documentary which was surprisingly interesting.

graz
09-29-2008, 05:16 AM
Brendan:
Tasty indeed. It seems to capture the essence of his campaign that calls black white and vice versa. I'm optimistic that a significant enough amount of voters in the right states (of mind and electoral placement) will examine the evidence in this and other cases and find the hypocrisy damning.
If the election hinges on the so-called swing voters, I like to think that they are doing the due diligence to fact check.
Obama states: John, you have voted with GW 90%. Then McGrumpy says: The people know my record of mavericktude or my failure to win "Miss Congeniality." Doesn't it follow that they will ask themselves what that means?
On an issue like veterans affairs, McC's posturing belies his record. And veterans groups are on record in significant numbers calling out his lack of consistency in support of their issues. He is an opportunist extraordinaire. Not any different than most pols, so easy enough to tar with more of the same and "four more years."

bjkeefe
09-29-2008, 10:51 AM
I'm optimistic that a significant enough amount of voters in the right states (of mind and electoral placement) will examine the evidence in this and other cases and find the hypocrisy damning.
If the election hinges on the so-called swing voters, I like to think that they are doing the due diligence to fact check.

Oh, how I wish I could agree with you.

Well, you did say of right mind, so I guess I can. One key will be motivating turnout of such people. I have a feeling, most years, that there are fewer uninformed people who vote than there are people who are fairly well informed, yet don't.

Thus Spoke Elvis
09-29-2008, 01:04 PM
I'm as big a music snob as anyone, but ABBA had a lot of great songs. And as the Beatles, Motown, and Elvis demonstrate, not all immensely popular music is godawful.

AemJeff
09-29-2008, 02:15 PM
I'm as big a music snob as anyone, but ABBA had a lot of great songs. And as the Beatles, Motown, and Elvis demonstrate, not all immensely popular music is godawful.

ABBA had a godawful presence, scrubbed and smiling: Donny and Marie from northern Europe. Their songs are surprisingly strong, though, actually pretty sophisticated exercises in songwriting. I realized this a few years ago when I heard somebody performing unadorned voice+acoustic guitar versions of a few of their hits. It was a little shocking when I realized why what I was listening to (and enjoying) was so familiar.