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Bloggingheads
05-24-2008, 04:22 PM

bjkeefe
05-24-2008, 05:00 PM
Who says Americans are bad at geography? (http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11319?in=02:12&out=02:16)

Forgot till now to come back after watching the rest to say how good this was. I never can think of anything to raise in debate or even to comment upon after watching these UN diavlogs, given my lack of background understanding, but I always get a lot out of them.

Baltimoron
05-24-2008, 11:36 PM
Goldberg and Lee hit a potent groove when they launched into the penultimate discussion on human rights. This was one of those discussions where two 'heads reach a level of sincerity that approaches sublimity (http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11319?in=00:39:50&out=00:47:50) without resorting to jargon and partisan pique. Lee's three points on evaluating human rights, race relations in America, and sovereignty deserve editorial treatment (and, perhaps a bodyguard for Lee). Lee's too humble.

Echoing Lee, the US misconstrues human rights for other national power indicators, like GDP. Also, sovereignty IS the only legal and political concept states recognize. Actually, I see a parallel with American states before 1787. The states and confederation were holding a vast seminar on sovereignty that still is not finished, or ever will be. Only now, there's another layer, the IGOs and NGOs that have altered our lives irrevocably. The example I recall from the first year of law school is the Universal Postal Union, which affects national postal law, but no American would want to undermine.

As far as security is concerned, few discuss collective security (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_security), a compromise position between the UN and states. Nationalist so-called "realists" forget that cooperation is the still useful flip side of conflict.

StillmanThomas
05-25-2008, 02:46 AM
I agree completely. I always watch and am grateful to you both for your wisdom and insight. Keep up the great work!

Eastwest
05-25-2008, 03:06 AM
Good one, guys.

Keep up the fine work.

EW

Joel_Cairo
05-27-2008, 04:14 PM
the UN as a spectator sport. (http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/11319?in=00:37:46&out=00:37:54)