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Bloggingheads
05-17-2008, 06:45 PM

David Thomson
05-17-2008, 07:15 PM
"How do you stop a ruthless warlord?"

This is a very easy question to answer: you threaten the warlord with violence! It really is that simple. Attempting to engage him in a never ending “dialogue” is a waste of time. Such a brute only understands the disciplined use of force. Of course, we all know that nothing like this is going to occur. Dishonest pacifism now dominates the leftist cultural milieu. Peace at any price is one of its nonnegotiable doctrines.

AemJeff
05-17-2008, 07:29 PM
"How do you stop a ruthless warlord?"

This is a very easy question to answer: you threaten the warlord with violence! It really is that simple. Attempting to engage him in a never ending “dialogue” is a waste of time. Such a brute only understands the disciplined use of force. Of course, we all know that nothing like this is going to occur. Dishonest pacifism now dominates the leftist cultural milieu. Peace at any price is one of its nonnegotiable doctrines.

If only we'd thought of that in Somalia, or Afghanistan! We ought to whisper it to the Russians as well - they seem to have had some problems with a Chechen or two. Luckily the Chinese get it - otherwise those vicious Tibetans would be a danger to us all.

otto
05-17-2008, 08:04 PM
Spiegel must be in front of a headlamp of some sort.

Surprising that you don't see this effect in Bh.tv more often.

bjkeefe
05-17-2008, 08:33 PM
"How do you stop a ruthless warlord?"

This is a very easy question to answer: you threaten the warlord with violence!

And how do you make this threat credible? How do you make him believe that you can go into the bush and get his army? Do you tell him you have magical ponies and you'll just go galloping ... no ... flying in on them after him?

Dishonest pacifism now dominates the leftist cultural milieu. Peace at any price is one of its nonnegotiable doctrines.

Uh huh. As are mindless bombast and an utter lack of concern for civilian casualties the non-negotiable doctrines of the American right.

David Thomson
05-17-2008, 09:09 PM
"As are mindless bombast and an utter lack of concern for civilian casualties the non-negotiable doctrines of the American right."

There will almost always be “collateral damage.” It would be foolish to pretend otherwise. This is what happened during WW II and every other military conflict. The same will inevitably be true in Uganda. But what is the alternative? Oh well, the lefties can always host white wine and Brie cheese parties on behalf of the victims of Uganda. Somebody can also market a few bumper stickers.

Wonderment
05-17-2008, 09:40 PM
DT's pathological aggression is well worth examining. We see this kind of irrational homicidal rage in several posters here.

I'm interested in how these hormonal rages get channeled and legitimized as political discourse.

How do you pour in the clearly deranged DT, KidneyStones and Whafur, shake it up a little on talk radio, simmer in the frying pan of David Frum speechifying, season with presidential chauvinism and lies, and serve up a dish of mainstream right-wing militarism that's palatable to the general public?

graz
05-17-2008, 10:09 PM
DT's pathological aggression is well worth examining. We see this kind of irrational homicidal rage in several posters here.

I'm interested in how these hormonal rages get channeled and legitimized as political discourse.

How do you pour in the clearly deranged DT, KidneyStones and Whafur, shake it up a little on talk radio, simmer in the frying pan of David Frum speechifying, season with presidential chauvinism and lies, and serve up a dish of mainstream right-wing militarism that's palatable to the general public?
It seems to have been created to be accepted by an (un)intelligent designer.
Just as with biologists acknowledging the imperfections of our human systems - windpipes/chow tubes, eyes/inverted imagery and detachable retinas, upright stance/ spinal distress, all the naughty bits next to the dirty bits, etc...

Forget survival of the fittest.
It is destruction by the clueless.
What else could account for such a contradiction?

bjkeefe
05-17-2008, 10:15 PM
Before we completely devolve into our usual partisan flamethrowing, I did want to thank the diavloggers -- Julia for her courageous reporting and her admirable concern, and Mark for bringing her on to spread the word.

KCC
05-17-2008, 11:54 PM
Julia hits the nail on the head on many points. As a few actors within the Juba process look to establish some traction on certain aspects of the Agreement on Accountability and Reconciliation it's important to keep both the government and LRA committed to what they have agreed to thus far. This includes the establishment of some sort of truth telling body or similar mechanism to get the justice and reconciliation ball rolling. With that in mind, the Acholi are not the only group to have suffered from LRA attack and UPDF human rights violations. The Teso, Lango and West Nile regions (not to mention those outside of Uganda) are deserving of justice beyond the application of what Acholi traditional mechanisms or international systems can provide. I am not averse to a military solution for the Kony problem, so long as it is sensitive to the children and women still within LRA captivity. I agree with Julia in that the diaspora hidden behind the LRA curtain needs to be identified and held accountable for what has happened over the last 22 years in northern Uganda and for its manipulation of the Juba process. Whether a French special forces operation or something similar is possible in CAR agaisnt the LRA is likely on the table, but reaching a peace settlement with the LRA - or Kony - appears to be over. The LRA are now, much more than before the peace process began, another threat to regional stability.

a Duoist
05-18-2008, 06:57 AM
What is still missing in the long LRA fight is political will by the African nations, and a pragmatic philosophy at the UN.

Just how does even the most savage army of 650 children/men continue to thrive for twenty some odd years when 1.5 million people are displaced by the brutality? Even if only 10% of the refugees are organized into a force to retake their villages, that's 150,000 against 650. Just exactly WHO is holding back the displaced persons from getting their homes back?

Talk, talk, talk. Negotiate, negotiate. Blah, blah, blah, with depraved, fanatical killers, 'trusting' that they'll keep their word or see the error of their ways, repent, and "turn their swords into ploughshares." The idealism of the UN is not commendable; it is, like all idealism, the psychological rejection of reality.

So long as the United Nations continues to believe that it exists to promote 'peace,' it will eternally fail to build peace. The organization actually exists (the Atlantic Charter) because both Roosevelt and Churchill knew of Immanuel Kant's insights from two hundred years ago: The only realistic method of building world peace is to achieve world freedom first.

Talk, talk, talk, blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda...with homicidal psychopaths! Can we get a refund on our UN dues?