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03-30-2008, 09:59 AM

03-31-2008, 10:23 AM
As The World Turns. No, really - the continuing sage of inside baseball at the UN.

David Edenden
04-01-2008, 11:15 AM
Hey Matthew and Mark (where is Luke and John?) you have to inject more controversy in your show. If Bloggingheads is like PBS, then you are in danger of cancellation since there is only one comment so far, as opposed to the "Hurlburt and Berman Show" which has 26!

I can see RW breathing down your neck. Here are a few suggested topics:

Expel the UN! Replace it with "Concert of Democracies"!

Expand the Security Council to include India and Iran!

A Standing UN Army!
Wat's wrong with "World Government" anyway?

Save money ... ban translators, ! Only one language, English ... naturally! Ambassadors to pass English language proficiency test before being accredited to UN!

David Edenden
04-01-2008, 11:36 AM
Matthew and Mark, by the time of your next show, Greece will have vetoed Macedonia's entry into Nato. Mathew Nimetz, "negotiator-for life", in Macedonian and Greek dispute has been at it for 17 years! How much has he been paid? What about the status of ethnic Macedonians in Greece? Are Greece's minority rights values the same as Nato values? Would the the US support Macedonia's Nato bid if Macedonia treated its Albanian minority the way that Greeks treat its ethnic Macedonian minority.

Want more controversy????

Does Obama support Greek racism against the ethnic Macedonian minority in Greece????

Anyway, below is a satire on Nimetz' negotiating skills and values.

Matthew Nimetz R.I.P - .June 17, 2039

By David Edenden
June 18, 2039

Matthew Nimetz passed away, yesterday, on his 100th birthday. He went peacefully while taking a cab to a meeting between the Greek and Macedonian governments to settle the long standing "name" dispute. Nimetz died doing what he loved best, trying to bring peace and understanding to the people of the Balkans.

Nimetz took over from Cyrus Vance on December 21, 1999. Mr Vance resigned for personal reasons and was not, contrary to rumors, hospitalized in the psychiatric ward of Walter Reed Hospital muttering "I am going to get those motherf@#kers if its the last thing I do".

Rumors abounded that, once the dispute was settled, Nimetz would automatically be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, which unfortunately, due to a series of bad investments in American securities market by the Nobel Committee, is now only worth $99.00 (Canadian) or $69.00 (US).

Mathew Nimitz, (no relation) who has been Matthew Nimetz's assistant for the past 5 years, will be taking over as mediator, providing a seamless transition.

Negotiations had been suspended for the last three years, so that archaeologists could decipher the meaning of ancient graffiti found on the ruins, of what appeared to be an ancient 1st century restaurant near the Greek border with Macedonia.

Graffiti: "Macedonians are from Mars, (God of War), while Greeks are from Uranus, (Father of the Titans)!"

Scholars are perplexed.

Over the years, Nimetz was strangely silent on the mistreatment of Greece's ethnic Macedonian minority. Greece continues to harass members of the 50,000 strong ethnic Macedonian community. The leader of its Vinozhito (Rainbow) Political Party has been arrested for printing on its campaign literature that feta cheese was invented by the ethnic Macedonians and they have some 5th century stinking feta cheese to prove it.

Matthew Nimetz will be missed by all those who value senseless and needless negotiations between a more powerful country (Greece) that wants to "wipe off the face of the map" another smaller country (Macedonia) all under the fond gaze of the EU and NATO.

04-01-2008, 12:55 PM
Perhaps but please no controversy for the sake of controversy.

I think the show serves a good purpose as “recently at the UN” newscast.

Next week for instance I would love to hear a discussion on the developments in Iraq and how the UN will play into it. It would be nice to have differing view points on the developments but am happy tuning in just to hear the UN news.

04-01-2008, 05:51 PM
Re: fight over Macedonia's name
The problem between Greece and FYROM is a political one. It isn't history that needs to be settled here, if only because the Macedonian Slavs will continue to make their historical claims even if the name issue is resolved. What's required is a POLITICAL settlement that will emphasize Macedonia as a GEOGRAPHICAL entity that is located in Greece, FYROM, and Bulgaria. The fact that the Macedonian Slavs are resisting such a settlement seems proof enough that they want to keep irredentist claims alive against both Greece and Bulgaria. This much seems evident. If a political settlement becomes possible after the name issue is resolved, THEN it will become much more possible for the two sides to tackle the issues of alleged discrimination of ethnic Macedonians in Greece cited by Mr. Edenden. Failing a political settlement, problems between the two sides will remain intractable and possibly become even worse. Are these the kinds of relations NATO wants within the alliance? Greece has gone half way by dropping its long-standing demand that "Macedonia" NOT be included in FYROM's new name. Now FYROM should be prepared to cover the other half of the distance separating the two countries.

04-02-2008, 12:33 AM
All right, that's rated PF, for pretty funny. Here's a complimentary dingalink, just for you:

don't tread on Macedonia (http://bloggingheads.tv/diavlogs/9784?in=00:49:16&out=49:48)

04-02-2008, 02:08 AM
And as far as serious responses go, that's rated FP, for fairly poor.

David Edenden
04-02-2008, 11:37 AM
Since you are a fan of humour ... Macedonian style

Read this:

Terrorists in Macedonia Kidnap Dogs,
Threaten Execution if Demands Are Not Met!


04-02-2008, 04:02 PM
OK Mr. Edenden, I can see after reading your profile that you are some sort of an activist for Slavic Macedonian interests. Seeing your rather one-sided treatment of the issues, I need to ask you two questions before I can consider discussing any of them with you: 1) Do you favor the creation of a separate Macedonian state that would include Greek and Bulgarian Macedonia? 2) Do you deny that FYROM wants to use the name "Republic of Macedonia" as a stepping-stone to achieving this goal? Whether this is a laughable notion or not given the difference between FYROM's and Greece's military capabilities is not the issue; rather, the issue as I see it is whether it's a good idea for a country to join NATO if it has irredentist claims on another member. REGARDLESS of whether it is capable of realizing these claims or not.

04-03-2008, 01:40 AM

Heh...I'm so easy. Interesting site, thanks.

04-05-2008, 09:28 AM
What a pity. I was hoping I'd be able to engage Mr. Edenden a bit more on this issue but apparently he's too busy writing hysterical anti-Greek posts elsewhere. I guess this thread will have to terminate.

04-06-2008, 07:49 PM
What a pity. I was hoping I'd be able to engage Mr. Edenden a bit more on this issue but apparently he's too busy writing hysterical anti-Greek posts elsewhere. I guess this thread will have to terminate.

We could go over to his site and shame him into a reply.